Player Discussion Alain Vigneault Part VI

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  1. Bleed Ranger Blue

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    Checked out? The roster, particularly the defense, is riddled with players who shouldn't be in the NHL. I don't think this is a checked out problem anymore.
     
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    I'm listening to the latest 31 Thoughts podcast, and ~16 minutes in, and Friedman mentions something interesting about AV and faceoffs.

    He says that AV, for some unspecified stretch of time, had the team deliberately lose faceoffs "because he felt they couldn't win one, so they better start to find a way"

    Whatever that quote means. But in the end, it seems like AV and a few other coaches have, at some point, told their players to deliberately lose faceoffs, and it happens way more often than we realize.
     
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    Doesn’t make sense.
     
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    You mean a semi-developed central nervous system?
     
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    My HF PR rep has advised me to neither confirm nor deny the rumors that I'm referring to a possibly missing nervous system
     
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    Pavel Buchnevich is 2nd on the team in PPG tied with Zibanejad and with the 20th TOI for the Rangers.
    Also 2nd on the team in points with Miller gone.

    Great job, coach!!!
     
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    I remember a time when I saw tanner glass lining up opposite zucc and thinking to myself...thats the dumbest thing I've ever seen.....and then I saw McLeod lined up opposite zucc.


    Well done coach...well done.
     
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    Only a few more games left in his tenure.

    The day he leaves will be glorious
     
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    Zucc plays more than one shift for sure in an attempt to get some other lines going, but I think AV refuse to bother with lines too much end of this season. We won`t be playing playoffs, and he knows he need to change lines again next game.
    It has been a difficult season, but I felt it was always an uphill battle for this team when Stepan was gone, and AV was aware this season will not be remembered in the history books.

    AV will get a new job soon in another franchise - I wish him good luck in advance.
     
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    8 more games until his Rangers career is hopefully over.
     
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    That day will indeed be......................

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    Maybe it is my natural pessimism of this team making the right choice, but I keep having fears of him being behind the bench next year.

    Throughout the history of the franchise, far more often than not, they have made exactly the wrong choice at exactly the wrong time.
     
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    When I complained to Gorton about AV in reply to "the letter" my Rangers season ticket rep took up the response and he actually told me AV wasn't the right coach for young talent lol. So yeah, I think there's a good sense in the organization about the right path forward
     
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    duplicate
     
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    Only good to come out of this season is the number of AV defenders have dropped to about 5 people total.
     
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    Names in the studio please. I think 5 is overestimation.
     
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    I don't blame you, but I think that time has come to an end. If McDonagh, Nash, and Grabner were still here, I'd agree with you, but Gorton seems determined to change this organization up.
     
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    JT Miller in 11 games with Tampa. 7 goals, 5 assists. Thanks AV
     
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    It has nuclear stretches a few times a year...he also disappears for long stretches and plays abysmal in his own zone. He also seems like a head case...and is probably going to want a ton on his next contract. It is what it is.

    Tbh I've really liked namestnikov....hes got a good overall game

    .ive liked him a ton more than spooner who had like a billion points...
     
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    Spooner is probably gone @Inferno - since he has a great return value, but yeah some good points for sure.
     
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    Yeah I've ripped into him hardcore, but I'm not wasting my energy on the guy. You said it exactly the way I would.

    It's just reality.
     
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    Phoicon Take these broken wings and learn to fly again.

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    What kind of a good coach would have the following (and this is actually better than our routine defensive zone play): 3 players focusing on a single player with the puck (R76, R36, R13), a man right open in the slot (W77) and there is actually a clean passing lane for an NHL level talent to that man.

    Yes, I know Hayes and Zucc are "looking to break out" - which does not make sense because it is the opposition that has the puck and the momentum for a high danger play. They get taught this crazy overpower-and-break-out system that has been figured out two years ago even by instinct by cavemen in Caps uniforms.

    If you look closely you can see that we actually outnumber the Caps 4 players to 3 but the positioning makes it seem like it is the other way around somehow.

    And sorry about the image quality - it´s my first try at oil-painting - don´t critique too harshly, I know I have the talent for it :)

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    ReggieDunlop68 hey hanrahan!

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    Idk. If the Rangers played the capitals in the first round, Given this current roster, even if we hired Renney just to FIRE RENNEY! in order to becomes Tort’s kinda guys: part deux, the Capitals would only have to win a 3 game sweep because the Rangers would just forfeit the 4th game.

    I mean I know it’s the playoffs “anything can happen”. Well anything can happen includes being demolished.

    Luckily we won’t have to do that since this blue turd has been spiraling down the porcelain pee hole for several months.
     
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    Where is the one with the four defenders chasing the puck carrier and leaving the wingers open on the Oshie goal? I can't wait for this clown to be gone.
     
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