Player Discussion Alain Vigneault Part VI

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

It must be a comfortable safe space to take the following viewpoints on the coach:

1. If the team is playing poorly/not winning games, its the coach's fault

2. If the team is winning games, its because either shooting % is reverting back to the mean or the goalies are bailing out the team.

Why even have a coach at all when they are only accountable for losing?

 

[True Blue]

Why even have a coach at all when they are only accountable for losing?

If all fairness, it has long been pointed out that AV's system only seems to work with the goalie is playing at extremely high levels. If no world class goalie, there seems to be lots of failure.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

If all fairness, it has long been pointed out that AV's system only seems to work with the goalie is playing at extremely high levels. If no world class goalie, there seems to be lots of failure.

False equivalency.

Teams that win championships or in general, irregardless of system, need a 'goalie is playing at extremely high levels."

 

[will1066]

AV's system is being offered via mail order for a limited time. The system comes with a three-DVD set. Thousands have applied his system and immediately found success. Just listen to the testimonials. Do you want to learn AV's system?

 

[Mac n Gs]

I’m still sticking to my original belief that AV is the best offensive coach in hockey. His offensive schemes are brilliant, but his defensive philosophy and structures are ass. They’ve gotten better with controlled breakouts and carry-ins because they revert back to their dmen and let them lead the rush, but the constant chasing and lack of neutral zone d has been my biggest complaint for four years now

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

If all fairness, it has long been pointed out that AV's system only seems to work with the goalie is playing at extremely high levels. If no world class goalie, there seems to be lots of failure.

Oh so you mean like virtually every other coach in the world?

AV's record as a head coach is extremely impressive, especially with the Rangers. Its not all on the goalie.

 

[True Blue]

False equivalency.

Teams that win championships or in general, irregardless of system, need a 'goalie is playing at extremely high levels."

There is quite a bit of difference between playing at high level and needing the goalie to be the best in the league. A

 

[will1066]

AV's defensive system is basically Leslie Nielsen going into the cockpit and telling Hank, "Good luck. We're all counting on you."

 

[True Blue]

Oh so you mean like virtually every other coach in the world?

AV's record as a head coach is extremely impressive, especially with the Rangers. Its not all on the goalie.

AV's formative years as a head coach with the most amount of wins happen to come when he happens to have either the best or one of the very best goalies in the league. Virtually every other coach can tailor a way to help the goalie if his level of play is not the best.

BTW, I said nothing regarding his record as a head coach. I do however think that his success is predicated on his goalie to cover up all of the warts that his system produces.

 

[TheTakedown]

AV's formative years as a head coach with the most amount of wins happen to come when he happens to have either the best or one of the very best goalies in the league. Virtually every other coach can tailor a way to help the goalie if his level of play is not the best.

BTW, I said nothing regarding his record as a head coach. I do however think that his success is predicated on his goalie to cover up all of the warts that his system produces.

Given the amount of high danger shots against, I too believe this is the case

 

[DanielBrassard]

Since AV's 1st season as Rangers coach, the Rangers are 1st in dFSV%, which is the save percentage of the team's goalies relative to the expected sv% at 0.9 of all unblocked shots. The next closest team is Chicago at 0.43. That's almost the difference between Chicago and NJ who is 14th at -0.04. That's incredible.

 

[Ori]

LA, Boston, Anaheim, NJD, Toronto before the christmas break, and our last couple of games are not too encouraging.

 

[Broadway Brad]

Imagine thinking Buchnevich doesn't deserve top 6 minutes, cause this moron believes exactly that.

 

[ZiGOODejad]

This coach is an idiot I hope he doesn't plan on putting DD in Boo Nieves 4th line spot for tomorrow game.

 

[NickyFotiu]

False equivalency.

Teams that win championships or in general, irregardless of system, need a 'goalie is playing at extremely high levels."

Plus we have won a good percentage of games with our backups (Talbot, Ranta) playing in games. Winning playoff games with bad goaltending is unusual.

 

[Yahoo89]

This coach is an idiot I hope he doesn't plan on putting DD in Boo Nieves 4th line spot for tomorrow game.

Nieves is out for DD, insanity.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Desharnais has been awful at 5v5. So happy he continues to play.

 

[DaBadGuy7]

I almost want this to be a start of a losing streak that will put AV back on the hot seat. Sick of seeing horrible defensive breakdowns and bone-headed plays like the Too Many Men penalty late in the 3rd.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I almost want this to be a start of a losing streak that will put AV back on the hot seat. Sick of seeing horrible defensive breakdowns and bone-headed plays like the Too Many Men penalty late in the 3rd.

TMM is on anyone but the coach. Seriously

 

[bl02]

TMM is on anyone but the coach. Seriously

Anything to blame every single thing on this coach. He's got quite a few flaws but you know one thing I'm sure glad we didn't hire the great clown I mean Claude . If you watch any Montreal games you would know why. If he was our coach buchnevich wouldn't even be playing lol. Galchenyuk who's been playing really well got the least amount of ice time of any player in the game tonight haha.

 

[Chimpradamus]

Vigneault seems hellbent on proving that offense wins cups, not defense.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Logical.

 

[Rangers2319]

^ L O L

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

That's just a snapshot. And certainly isn't based on ice time.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I sometimes worry about the team coming out flat for games and our defensive system but overall AV has been one of the best Rangers coach in my lifetime. I have seen some poor coaches. I do not take AV for granted. He is a real professional.