A Canadien in Team USA

Discussion in 'International Tournaments' started by BigMac1212, May 27, 2004.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. BigMac1212

    BigMac1212 2018 is Tartarus

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2003
    Messages:
    4,536
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Courtesey Clerk :blush:
    Location:
    Sun Devil Country
    Home Page:
    Can someone tell me why Brett Hull is on Team USA when he was born in Ontario? :dunno:
     
  2. deathbear

    deathbear Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    2,428
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Manitoba
    Home Page:
    canadiAn. ;)
     
  3. Rabid Ranger

    Rabid Ranger 2 is better than one

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    22,314
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Occupation:
    Contract manager
    Location:
    Murica

    No offense, but were you born under a rock? Brett Hull is an American citizen. His mother is from the U.S., and a long time ago Hull decided to lend his allegiance to the U.S. in international events. As a matter-of-fact, I don't even think he has his Canadian citizenship anymore.
     
  4. BLONG7

    BLONG7 Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2002
    Messages:
    19,677
    Likes Received:
    1,291
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    Nova Scotia
    Home Page:
    He was once cut from Team Canada by Dave King, he then vowed he would never play for Canada again... and he has kept his promise!
     
  5. Hitman*

    Hitman* Guest

    Probably for the same reasons he was playing for the U.S. in 2002, 1998, 1996 etc. ect.

    And for the same reasons that Dany Heatley and Robyn Regehr are allowed to play for Team Canada.
     
  6. OC Kings Fan 24

    OC Kings Fan 24 Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Westminster
    Same with Adam Deadmarsh. Born in Trail, BC , but plays for the U.S.
     
  7. MikeC44

    MikeC44 Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2003
    Messages:
    453
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    64
    Location:
    Moncton, NB
    Home Page:
    Not quite that harsh.
    I believe he was cut by the Canadian team, then the US team offered him a spot and he took it. He then decided he would continue playing for the team that gave him a shot.
     
  8. David Puddy

    David Puddy Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2003
    Messages:
    5,824
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    New Jersey, USA
    Home Page:
    Chico Resch, born in (if I can read the card right) Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, served as Tom Barrasso’s backup on Team USA in the 1984 Canada Cup team.

    Olaf Kolzig was born in South Africa to German parents. He grew up in Canada, but maintained a German passport which allows him to play for Germany in international competition.
     
  9. KariyaIsGod*

    KariyaIsGod* Guest

    Yeah, pretty much.

    I suppose he took the snooze you lose approach...
     
  10. leafaholix*

    leafaholix* Guest

    He wasn't good enough to play for Canada earlier on in his hockey career... was cut, and the U.S. offered him a spot on their roster.

    Left-overs.

    ;)
     
  11. HockeyMan9

    HockeyMan9 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Messages:
    882
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Home Page:
    Hey, sometimes left overs are better then fresh.
     
  12. Crosbyfan

    Crosbyfan Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2003
    Messages:
    10,497
    Likes Received:
    92
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Benedict Arnold Hull
     
  13. Vyacheslav

    Vyacheslav Pro

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Messages:
    19,685
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Occupation:
    i do stuff and earn money
    Location:
    Dat mitten
    If his mother is from the US how does that make him a traitor? Would he be an American traitor if he played for Canada?
     
  14. Stammer Time*

    Stammer Time* Sons of Pirates

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    Messages:
    29,306
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    St.Pete, Florida
    :lol:
     
  15. Postman

    Postman Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    4,927
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Exactly.

    That makes him an American citizen at birth, and the same goes for Deadmarsh. Both had American mothers.

    If they were ONLY Canadian and had no affiliation with America, I doubt they would've played for team USA. Fact of the matter is, they both have affiliations with both countries, and shouldn't be considered traitors or "left overs," that's just sour grapes.
     
  16. Canuck21t

    Canuck21t Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2004
    Messages:
    2,683
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    96
    Location:
    Montreal, QC
    Stop this nonsense about Heatley, he is 100 % Canadian. Both his parents are Canadian. He was only born in Germany because his father worked there. I doubt he has any blood connection in Germany. Olaf Kolzig on the other hand has German relatives. Heck, just look at his name; very German. There's nothing Germanic in Heatley.

    As for Hull, he should be more Canadian than American, but since his mother is American, it's also fair that he suits for the USA. Personally, I'm glad that he's not with Team Canada. I never liked him and we have better players than him. Good ridence if you ask me.
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2004
  17. Rabid Ranger

    Rabid Ranger 2 is better than one

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    22,314
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Occupation:
    Contract manager
    Location:
    Murica

    :nopity:
     
  18. HellsBells

    HellsBells Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2003
    Messages:
    3,734
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    PEI
    Home Page:
    There's a difference. Hull tried out for Canada and was cut, he walked. Regehr & Heatley have played hockey all along in Canada.

    If Hull originally played for the US, I would have no bones with it, but to turn your back on your country because you were not good enough is pretty sad if you ask me.
     
  19. HellsBells

    HellsBells Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2003
    Messages:
    3,734
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    PEI
    Home Page:
    My feelings exactly. Like we've ever needed him.
     
  20. HellsBells

    HellsBells Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2003
    Messages:
    3,734
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    PEI
    Home Page:
    So what, my mother was born in Pennsylvania and I have lived in Canada all my life. If I were cut by team Canada and offered a spot with the US, I would say "I AM CANADIAN".
     
  21. Rabid Ranger

    Rabid Ranger 2 is better than one

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    22,314
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Occupation:
    Contract manager
    Location:
    Murica
    That doesn't change the fact that Brett Hull was an American citizen at birth and could decide, for whatever reason, to suit up for either nation in international events. People need to let this one go...............
     
  22. big_steve

    big_steve Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    Messages:
    871
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Newfoundland
    Just wondering guys but isn't John LeClair's father or mother Canadian? I believe so. I have no problem with him playing with the U.S. since he was born there.
     
  23. big_steve

    big_steve Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    Messages:
    871
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Newfoundland
    Also, what about Regehr? Is he really Canadian or what?
     
  24. Hitman*

    Hitman* Guest

    Heatley could have played for Germany if he wanted to, because he is German as well as Canadian.

    And your last name doesn't mean anything. Olaf Kolzig could have changed his name to Oliviér Leblanc and that wouldn't have made him any less German.
     
  25. Canuck21t

    Canuck21t Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2004
    Messages:
    2,683
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    96
    Location:
    Montreal, QC
    Do we know for a fact that Heatley is German? Does he have German citizenship? Olaf's name means a lot. It means that he has German blood, both his parents are German but they now live in Canada. The only and single thing that retales Heatley to Germany is that he was born there and that's it. Keanu Reeves was born in Lebanon, does it make him Lebanese? Heck no. Hull's mother is American, so he has the right to play for the USA. I believe parentage is more important than the birthplace of a person.
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2004
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"