Mantha actually is a great Corsi player though. The possession or shot differential stats when he's on the ice are amazing.
Post-Game Talk: 80 More Wins Left
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Mantha actually is a great Corsi player though. The possession or shot differential stats when he's on the ice are amazing.
He's played less than 100 games in the NHL. I suspect as he continues to grow and learn the league he'll use his size and physicality more. He's already been in a few fights, too.
When the team gets 8 penalties, non penalty killers often fall out of the rhythm, happens to even superstar players like Ovechkin.
Hmmm. In my opinion we have played 1 good period in the 2 games, 3rd period of Game 1. Shouldn't measure entertainment/good play against a W/L. Not the same thing.
I don't think Howard has been wildly hot, he's making a lot of saves by accumulation because the blueline struggles to block shots and/or clear the zone so much there are a lot of low percentage shots getting to him. He has certainly been very good, though.
I like Daley. He's a full ice defenseman. The blueline is still a problem, but more like a 'oh geez our blueline stinks' problem and not a 'I break out in hives the moment the puck crosses center ice' problem. If Kronwall has a couple gasps left in the tank... yeah, it'll still be bad. Did anyone have 'Daley will lead the team in TOI' in a preseason pool?
I don't think Mantha is floating. I think he's a one-dimensional player, so when he's not producing he becomes an easy target.
Frk plays with desperation. I like it.
Everyone hates these guys because of their contracts, but Helm and Abdelkader are playing really good defensive hockey right now. People will hate them until they start scoring, but it's a start.
Last year there were a few guys whose play out on the ice was embarrassing. So far, I haven't seen that. Then again, Mrazek hasn't gotten a start yet either.
I like Daley. He's a full ice defenseman. The blueline is still a problem, but more like a 'oh geez our blueline stinks' problem and not a 'I break out in hives the moment the puck crosses center ice' problem. If Kronwall has a couple gasps left in the tank... yeah, it'll still be bad. Did anyone have 'Daley will lead the team in TOI' in a preseason pool?
I don't think Mantha is floating. I think he's a one-dimensional player, so when he's not producing he becomes an easy target.
Frk plays with desperation. I like it.
Everyone hates these guys because of their contracts, but Helm and Abdelkader are playing really good defensive hockey right now. People will hate them until they start scoring, but it's a start.
Last year there were a few guys whose play out on the ice was embarrassing. So far, I haven't seen that. Then again, Mrazek hasn't gotten a start yet either.
HIFE
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I totally agree these games have not been excellent to watch. With a friend in the hospital and my normal connections I've been kind of binge watching NHL the last days and can say with certainty our 2 wins were near the least thrilling. I love when hockey gets rolling back and forth with beautiful passes, chances at both ends. You can imagine a play being set up a second beforehand then it happens, like some sick cross-ice sauce all the way to a D that catches the puck at the blue line. For the most part the Wings lack the talent to set up the same type of "dreamy" offensive plays.
Still we all know the expectations for the Wings are low and we're in a stage of transition. Instead of the usual mindless vitriol it seems like people this season are looking at small things to appreciate. For example the comment HD made about DeKeyser, that he's never really improved like we hoped. It's a lot more thoughtful than "he's horribad blah blah". I'm trying to remain positive instead of driving myself insane with frustration over the fact we're not a top team (and may not be for a long while).
The game against Ottawa was a pretty even tilt. It was a playoff game. Ottawa was blocking a ton of shots and both team's goalie stole the show. The Wings won't be taking 7 penalties every game, either.
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Honestly I thought both games were pretty entertaining. The first game started slow, but got better in the second half, and the Ottawa game, despite being low scoring had a little bit of everything, and was enjoyable in my opinion. If you want boring games, watch any of about 40-50 games from last year. These two this year, are a lot better than many last year, that is for certain.
Zetterberg still looks like the smartest player on the ice each night.
Larkin is skating like he did in the first half of year one.
Mantha looks like he is using his size better, and trying to be more creative with the puck.
Helm has been physical, forcing turnovers and skating well.
Daley looks pretty good, keeps the puck moving, especially in our zone.
Green has looked great in my opinion, smart defence and offence.
Howard has been sharp if unspectacular.
The bad
Sheahan and Abdelkader look like more of what we saw last year, as does Dekeyser who I think has been our worst player in the preseason and first 2 games. He seems to panic every time he has the puck in our zone, especially on the PK.
Zetterberg still looks like the smartest player on the ice each night.
Larkin is skating like he did in the first half of year one.
Mantha looks like he is using his size better, and trying to be more creative with the puck.
Helm has been physical, forcing turnovers and skating well.
Daley looks pretty good, keeps the puck moving, especially in our zone.
Green has looked great in my opinion, smart defence and offence.
Howard has been sharp if unspectacular.
The bad
Sheahan and Abdelkader look like more of what we saw last year, as does Dekeyser who I think has been our worst player in the preseason and first 2 games. He seems to panic every time he has the puck in our zone, especially on the PK.
The title of this thread should be "refs call 10
I disagree completely with Helm. He looks way slower....
The fact we "don't" notice him is a great sign. The only defensemen that has been turning pucks over constantly this year is Jonathan Ericsson
edmundbenz
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Ericsson is no longer good enough at the NHL level. He isn't quick enough, and turns it over with far too much consistency. Ouellet is a better player.
Yeah I 100% agree. Helm looks like he has slowed down quite a bit, which is very concerning because his speed is all he has. Helm without speed is barely an NHL calibre player.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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My dream scenario is move Green at the TDL for a 2018 1st round pick, Buy out Ericsson and LTIR Kronwall for his last season and bring up the kids Hicketts, Possibly Hronek Maybe Cholowski next year.
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