Post-Game Talk: #72 | FLYERS 4 at Hurricanes 2 | Sat., Mar. 17, 2018, 7:00 pm ET
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FLYguy3911
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Patrick 2017:
29 Games
41.59 CF%
-8.71 CF% rel
47.37 GF%
-9.04 GF% rel
Patrick 2018:
34 Games
52.86 CF%
+3.80 CF% rel
55.56 GF%
+8.83 GF% rel
If we are being honest, nothing besides his draft pedigree suggested this turnaround was possible this season. He looks great. Plays so much faster now. Him, Lindblom, and Voracek protect the puck so well out there.
Winston Wolf
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onlylordsvsmorebp
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yup. lindy and sanheim are making great cases to stay and they are only gonna get better...totally agree on lyon too. tk is money.
onlylordsvsmorebp
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oh yah!! LYON/HART!!...someone had to spell it out for me.
thanks buddy. obviously meant to be...
LegionOfDoom91
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I think it’s importance is often overstated but he’s even got a FO% of 50.63% as a rookie & a teenaged one at that. Most guys struggle at that when they enter the league.
BernieParent
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According to my calculations, there's been about ~605 goals scored by a slap shot this year in ~1100 games. So, about 0.55 goals from a slap shot each game, or basically never.
Source? I'm curious.
FLYguy3911
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You want emotion bitches?
He always looked great in the WHL but they don't track faceoffs so it was just the eye-test. Good to have confirmation.
Winston Wolf
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I literally just added them up from NHL.com. Put the page value to 100 and in descending order and took like 2 minutes.
NHL.com - Stats
Winston Wolf
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I got you. They obviously need to bring Van Damme to games like the Panthers did with Kevin Spacey last year. Hopefully it works out better.oh yah!! LYON/HART!!...someone had to spell it out for me.
Magua
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Yeah Patrick’s faceoff form is top notch. It’s not a surprise really. Lot of kids his age don’t choke down on their stick properly or don’t use their lower body enough or swing too much at the puck. He’s a pro at it. Could teach Vorobyev a few things. Even Frost. Coaches eat that stuff up, so it’s good to see he could be elite there. Especially if he gets more special teams time.
One of Patrick’s best features is just knowing how to move pucks quick and playing within himself. You see plays where he could try a 1 on 1 move but just moves it smartly to space, especially off the rush. It’s just his style. Maybe he will get bolder with time, but he understands how he needs to play now. But he played like this in Brandon too: decisive and efficient.
And on that goal where he was in the corner against Faulk, you see he was still unsteady even though he fought him off. He’s improved there, but a full summer of training on core muscles — which he didn’t get — will make him even better in the corners puck protecting, and it’ll open up his passing game even more. I actually liked how he did a quick stop/start juke to get space before that instead of being ridden off. He would not have done that several months ago. And we’ve seen as his skating has improved he’s creating a little more space for his shot. That will still come too, but you can tell that goalies do not make good reads or clean saves when he shoots his snapper. They’re usually late and fight it off. That’s going to be a weapon.
I thank Dale Weise every day.
One of Patrick’s best features is just knowing how to move pucks quick and playing within himself. You see plays where he could try a 1 on 1 move but just moves it smartly to space, especially off the rush. It’s just his style. Maybe he will get bolder with time, but he understands how he needs to play now. But he played like this in Brandon too: decisive and efficient.
And on that goal where he was in the corner against Faulk, you see he was still unsteady even though he fought him off. He’s improved there, but a full summer of training on core muscles — which he didn’t get — will make him even better in the corners puck protecting, and it’ll open up his passing game even more. I actually liked how he did a quick stop/start juke to get space before that instead of being ridden off. He would not have done that several months ago. And we’ve seen as his skating has improved he’s creating a little more space for his shot. That will still come too, but you can tell that goalies do not make good reads or clean saves when he shoots his snapper. They’re usually late and fight it off. That’s going to be a weapon.
I thank Dale Weise every day.
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onlylordsvsmorebp
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im so so so glad we got patrick. what a gift. scary how good this kid is gonna be....
Juicy Pop
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You do have to credit both ends of that to his wingers as well.
That said, he already looks like an everyday 2nd C at 19 which is a godsend for this franchise.
Winston Wolf
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Patrick was only below 50% in face offs in October at 47.9% and November at 43.8%. Every other month has been over 50%. He's over 55% in March. I don't think it would be unreasonable to project him as becoming one of the very best face off guys in the league in short order.
I haven't seen a kid on this team with the creativity and hands that Patrick has since Lindros.
He isn't 1/3 the player Lindros was, but he's gonna be good.
He isn't 1/3 the player Lindros was, but he's gonna be good.
BackToTheBrierePatch
Nope not today.
Well i am a goddamn idiot. I was texting my wife and put the text to her in the game day thread. Multi task FAIL on my end
Winston Wolf
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BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
Wow, there's a degree of stats I wouldn't have thought available on NHL.com. Thanks, WW.
BackToTheBrierePatch
Nope not today.
Winston Wolf
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Yeah, no problem. It would be nice if they would offer an excel file download, but it's better than nothing.
Foggy14
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This game reminded me of a pet peeve.
In the first minute, Provy had a grade A chance on a backhand shot that beat Ward, but just hit the post.
Early in the second, when we were down by a goal, Couts came out behind the 'Canes net and would have had a great backhand opportunity. Instead, he turned to his forehand and the chance was gone by the time he got there.
It seemed like I'd seen this a lot before. Checking the NHL.com stats, we're 27th in backhand shots.
Hak, if you're reading this (fat chance), you might want to have the coaches work on the guys' backhand skills and instruct them to take those opportunities when they have them. The backhand, when well executed, can be a really dangerous shot.
In the first minute, Provy had a grade A chance on a backhand shot that beat Ward, but just hit the post.
Early in the second, when we were down by a goal, Couts came out behind the 'Canes net and would have had a great backhand opportunity. Instead, he turned to his forehand and the chance was gone by the time he got there.
It seemed like I'd seen this a lot before. Checking the NHL.com stats, we're 27th in backhand shots.
Hak, if you're reading this (fat chance), you might want to have the coaches work on the guys' backhand skills and instruct them to take those opportunities when they have them. The backhand, when well executed, can be a really dangerous shot.
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You know how in "Lord of the Rings" there was Sauron and Saruman on one side, being all nasty, and Gandalf on the other side, being all awesome? That's what it was like in the 80s-90s - there was Gretzky and Lemieux on one side, sucking the ass of the universe, and Stevie Y on the other side, just utterly ruling in the name of goodness. I am going to paraphrase myself here, when I said:
"Stevie was always money. He was born money, and when he dies, he will become cryptocurrency."
BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
This game reminded me of a pet peeve.
In the first minute, Provy had a grade A chance on a backhand shot that beat Ward, but just hit the post.
Early in the second, when we were down by a goal, Couts came out behind the 'Canes net and would have had a great backhand opportunity. Instead, he turned to his forehand and the chance was gone by the time he got there.
It seemed like I'd seen this a lot before. Checking the NHL.com stats, we're 27th in backhand shots.
Hak, if you're reading this (fat chance), you might want to have the coaches work on the guys' backhand skills and instruct them to take those opportunities when they have them. The backhand, when well executed, can be a really dangerous shot.
Do you know how weak a backhander from the point is? It's an even worse option than a slapshot.
Foggy14
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I’ve never seen Lord of the rings
. I know most of the 90s stuff, but for the 80s and beyond I only know about the stars.Ad
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