Speculation: 6 In 5 Thread 2017/18 (& Playoff Prediction)

Whileee

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Jets have been following a draft and development process to build the roster.

This season they jettisoned several vets that weren't good enough and shelled out in free agency to fill their two most pressing gaps (LD and goal).

Then they marketed the season as #risetogether, with their leading players saying this was the year to compete.

They charge out of the gate at 13-5-3.

It's almost like they had planned things with a rational time table.
 

Gm0ney

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Just looking at the NHL Thanksgiving playoff chances since 2011-12 (ignoring the lockout year).

63 out of 80 teams in a playoff spot at US Thanksgiving have made the playoffs: 78.75%
Average points above last Wildcard spot at Thanksgiving of teams that missed playoffs: 2.53
Most points above last Wildcard at Thanksgiving to miss playoffs: Montreal 2015-16: 11 points.
2nd most points to miss was Toronto with a 5 point lead in 2011-12. There were 4 teams that were +4 over the cuttoff that missed, 4 teams +2, and 6 teams +0 (i.e. sitting in the last WC spot).
None of the above takes into account games in hand.

Jets are currently 6 points above the cutoff...so only 1/80 teams (1.25%) has missed with a 5+ point lead on the last WC at Thanksgiving.
 

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Again, it's a process

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Just looking at the NHL Thanksgiving playoff chances since 2011-12 (ignoring the lockout year).

63 out of 80 teams in a playoff spot at US Thanksgiving have made the playoffs: 78.75%
Average points above last Wildcard spot at Thanksgiving of teams that missed playoffs: 2.53
Most points above last Wildcard at Thanksgiving to miss playoffs: Montreal 2015-16: 11 points.
2nd most points to miss was Toronto with a 5 point lead in 2011-12. There were 4 teams that were +4 over the cuttoff that missed, 4 teams +2, and 6 teams +0 (i.e. sitting in the last WC spot).
None of the above takes into account games in hand.

Jets are currently 6 points above the cutoff...so only 1/80 teams (1.25%) has missed with a 5+ point lead on the last WC at Thanksgiving.

A nice analytical approach
 

Weezeric

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It kinda sucks that according to this model 3 of the top 5 teams in the league are in the central. If we don't win the division we may end up playing a top 5 team in the 1st round... I guess that's a good problem to have consider the last 5 years hah
 
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KingBogo

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Went by Sports Club for the 1st time this season, and I most admit it seemed a little unreal to see 90.9% instead of something closer to 9.9%. Really starts to set in that we are pretty damn good after all.
 
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How is Nashville favoured to win the division and have a higher probability of making the playoffs when we have a better record?
That just because tof the jets loss to them last week?

Does not compute to Johnny 5

The Jets have a lower base expected win% in his model. From what I can tell he is basing that xwin% entirely on combined game score

From the FAQ on how the model works

Frequently Asked Questions
How does all this work?

Basically, I rate every team by their expected win percentage based on a model’s projections and feed that info into an Excel spreadsheet that has the entire 2017-18 schedule. I estimate the chances of each team winning each game while also accounting for which team is at home and how much rest both teams have had. I then add that all together to get standings for the season, as well as who made the playoffs and eventually who won the Stanley Cup. From there, I use some code to repeat that process 50,000 more times to figure out an average simulated season.
What goes into those projections?
The projections are entirely at the player level and are based on an all-in-one stat I created a little over a year ago called Game Score. It combines all the basic box score stats into one number to measure a player’s value. As one season isn’t really enough to get a good read on a player, I use the last three seasons instead. The seasons were weighted by recency using a multi-variate regression and the results of that are regressed to the mean based on the repeatability of each component and the size of each player’s sample. There’s also an age adjustment as we expect players to get better as they move towards their prime and worse as they move away from it. Lastly, there’s a small adjustment for usage.
 

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Point %
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Total Points
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Pace / 82 Games
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Neuf

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Total Points
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Pace / 82 Games
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Last 5 Games6 pts
Avg 5 Games6.9 pts
CML PPG1.38
Point %0.688
Win %0.625
Total Points33
Pace / 82 Games112
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Tom ServoMST3K

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Last 5 Games
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Point %
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Win %
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Total Points
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Pace / 82 Games
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Avg 5 Games6.9 pts
CML PPG1.38
Point %0.688
Win %0.625
Total Points33
Pace / 82 Games112
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Again, dat pace tho.

We're banking so many points, we can suck for the rest of the year, and still make the playoffs.
 

Neuf

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PPG looks like it is settling between 1.3 and 1.4. That's between 6.5 and 7 points per 5 games.
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Jets have been following a draft and development process to build the roster.

This season they jettisoned several vets that weren't good enough and shelled out in free agency to fill their two most pressing gaps (LD and goal).

Then they marketed the season as #risetogether, with their leading players saying this was the year to compete.

They charge out of the gate at 13-5-3.

It's almost like they had planned things with a rational time table.

Weird :huh:
 

Atoyot

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Again, dat pace tho.

We're banking so many points, we can suck for the rest of the year, and still make the playoffs.

If we go .500 for the rest of the season we have 91 points. I'm not comfortable with that number myself.
 

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This projection now has us only the 4th best team in the central

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