Marshall
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Well, that article certainly makes it look like Pittsburgh management is doing the same thing as the Caps'.
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Marshall said:Well, that article certainly makes it look like Pittsburgh management is doing the same thing as the Caps'.
Nope.Drake1588 said:Argue the point if you like, but if Pittsburgh management was genuinely interested in icing its best possible team, they would still have Andy Chiodo in the lineup. The team keeps winning anyway, and while that is a major credit to the players and to Olczyk, Patrick and Lemieux cannot be pleased.
This appears to be a fairly balanced article on the subject. Neither team is above reproach at the management level:
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/04090/293442.stm
The difference appears to be that when Pitttsburgh tries to tank, they end up winning more games... at least the Caps follow through!
Evilo said:Nope.
Wilkes-Barre is fighting for a playoff post, and right now the focus is on them, and this they get the young guns (Chiodo, Surovy). In fact the Pens will soon send Orpik and co down. Had they sent them down right now, it would have been much closer to tanking that what they do right now. They have Caron and Aubin in nets, two goalies who have played well. Not some ECHL bum.
The Caps have sent down a number of their top prospects, citing the exact same reasons. The sports pages of the Post are ridden with quotes to that effect. Portland is in a playoff race and the Caps are trying to get them into the AHL post-season.Evilo said:Nope.
Wilkes-Barre is fighting for a playoff post, and right now the focus is on them, and this they get the young guns (Chiodo, Surovy). In fact the Pens will soon send Orpik and co down. Had they sent them down right now, it would have been much closer to tanking that what they do right now. They have Caron and Aubin in nets, two goalies who have played well. Not some ECHL bum.
Drake1588 said:The Caps have sent down a number of their top prospects, citing the exact same reasons. The sports pages of the Post are ridden with quotes to that effect. Portland is in a playoff race and the Caps are trying to get them into the AHL post-season.
At least, that is what management of both teams are saying as to their reasons.
And Olaf Kolzig is still playing hockey. He is playing tonight against Pittsburgh, in fact.
Marshall said:The Caps' have a Vezina-winning goalie, who, btw, has had 61 starts this year, hardly a light work-load. 11th in the league with 3612:10 minutes of ice-time. Pens' fans will see him tonight. The Pens' best goalie is in juniors right now.
The Pens sent their best goaltender back to juniors. That was fine, but the Caps start Matt Yeats, and they're bad?
Handsome B. Wonderful said:Two things here...
1. Fleury isn't our best goalie. He will be, maybe as soon as next year, but as of now Caron is better, and possibly Aubin.
2. Fleury was sent back because of developmental issues, his stats were going downhill and he was getting lit up nightly regardless of how well he was playing. Yeats is an ECHL calibur goalie with no future. No comparison. If the Penguins called up Joe Exter you could argue, but until then, no.
Handsome B. Wonderful said:I wouldn't have a problem if our starter was injured too, but Kolzig ain't hurt.
We had our equivelant to Yeats up here in Martin Brochu, but he only played 32 minutes for us. Despite him playing good in that one game he was sent down right away.
Everyone has a problem with Yeats not because he's there, but because he's starting.
Marshall said:Started twice. Kolzig's started 60 games. He'll start tonight. That's an issue? Absurd.
Jacobv2 said:I think the argument here is that they aren't sinking quite as low as the Caps are.
Jacobv2 said:I think the argument here is that they aren't sinking quite as low as the Caps are.
They have better players right NOW, but over the course of the season, you can't tell me the Penguins have had more talent on their roster. The Caps had Lang, Bondra, Jagr, Gonchar, etc. etc. for a big chunk of the season.EroCaps said:They have better players this year.
This is the Caps first year/quarter of rebuilding, the Pens have been doing it for three years.
I certainly don't agree with that.
Go-SENS-Go said:No, the BLUE JACKETS should win the lottery
Just imagine: Nash--Zherden--Ovechkin
Marshall said:I stand corrected, the Caps are going with Yates tonight.
I don't like it.
Handsome B. Wonderful said: