Post-Game Talk: #28 | FLYERS 4 at Oilers 2 | Wed., Dec. 6, 9:30 pm ET

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  1. Ghosts Beer

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    Dave, you know I love your sense of humor, but just because I disagree with the board consensus doesn't mean I'm doing it just to be contrarian,
    Or, more importantly, that being contrarian is wrong:
    Weise?
    Gordon?
    Filppula?

    Let's not forget, three of the most recent things of been accused of being "contrarian" have proven correct.
     
  2. Ghosts Beer

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    We can get into Lyon's .894 AHL save pct., but i don't want to rub it in.
     
  3. Psuhockey

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    So this might end up being the worst of all scenarios. The Flyers miss the playoffs, finished out of the top 10 in the draft, barely play and develop the key pieces of the future and retain Hakstol as coach.
     
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    # haklogic
     
  5. Hiesenberg

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    Missed the game, anything I miss of note? I see people are mad about the TOI again.
     
  6. BernieParent

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    I think the word you require here is "can'ton".

    As for intelligent contribution to this thread, I don't know what to say anymore about TOI. The scariest for me is Hakstol tossing Provorov onto the ice for nearly 30 minutes against another bottom-feeding team. I don't care how otherworldly Provorov's training regimen is; Hakstol is going to burn him out or, worse, put him at risk of serious injury.

    On the other end of the scale, Sanheim ... 'nuff said. Ridiculous.
     
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    This is brutal stuff.
     
  8. Hiesenberg

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    Weise played the fewest minutes out of anybody from what I can see.

    You want Hakstol to dress 11 forwards?
     
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  9. MR28

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    I'd like to just see 12 good ones, but it's hard to take Weisebuscuit out if he's going to continue to snipe like that.
     
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    Weise was on the ice 5v5 for over 2 minutes more than Patrick. What does Weise offer that Patrick doesn't?
     
  11. MR28

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    Animalistic qualities that remind Dave of his time spent on the farm as a child.
     
  12. Hiesenberg

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    They don't have 12 good ones. They have 11 good ones and Weise and Lehtera, and honestly I'm sure somebody can make a case that Patrick is the worst out of all of them, he's played terrible
     
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  13. MR28

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    Also there's about 8 forwards on the phantoms that are better than Lehtera.
     
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    They are on the Phantoms. Can't dress Phantoms
     
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    I’ve only been saying how absurd it is to have all our scoring talent on one line since the beginning of the season. Imagine how I feel now that they only do it once Hakstol was on the brink of firing and all wins so is **** up their draft position.
     
  16. FLYguy3911

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    Can we get into Wade Allison's point production?
     
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    Filppula is on a 40 point pace (30 ES), about what he did last season.
    Which is pretty solid for a 3C.
    Not his fault that Patrick is taking his time to become a 2C.
     
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  18. sa cyred

    sa cyred No Tanking for #2

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    Not too difficult to do that with the minutes he is doing.
     
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    I didn't see the game but I would assume Weise got a couple of shifts at wing on other lines.

    Before the last stretch, Sanheim was getting 16 minutes, TK was getting about 14 minutes, and Patrick was getting about 12. They need to get back to that level pretty soon or it will be a genuine development issue.
     
  20. Danko

    Danko ...the way she goes

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    I watched the first period and went to bed. Win streak!!!!!!!!!

    I really dont get the logic if any was used, as to why Sanheim is playing less then Alt. Or why patrick is barely playing.
     
  21. sa cyred

    sa cyred No Tanking for #2

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    The Patrick situation is stupid as is the Travis' situations. My only thought is that they believe Alt, defensively, is better than Sanheim at the moment. I obviously don't agree with it, because these are the types of situations that can help Sanhiem improve his defensive zone presence. He still struggles back there understandably, due to age and new to league, but I guess Hak looks at it as his job on the line, so he plays the player he believes is better, if only slightly, while not really caring about development. Hak is a HUGE vet supporter, which is why we have seen the past 2 seasons how he mis-handles the young players (other than really Provy)
     
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    Ya know hes a big guy, strong two way guy. Ya need guys like that in your lineup.
     
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    Better Lehtera in the pressbox and prospects playing every night in the AHL.
     
  24. deadhead

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    I think right now it's primarily the need to win games on the road, and teams targeting them with matchups.

    Face it, Patrick has been awful, he's got a target on his back on the road.
    TK has been almost as bad, his lack of size shows up in the D-zone, while he'll hit people on the forecheck, when he's along the boards in the D-zone, he struggles to clear the puck. Strength (and technique) does matter.
    And Sanheim alternates really promising play with really bad mistakes.

    At home it's easier to give them softer matchups.
     
  25. flyersphan20

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    Good win I guess but this year means nothing, I am not comfortable with Patrick, Konecny, and Sanheim playing the minutes that they are. Give them more minutes, they'll learn.

    That is what this year is about, learning the pro game and adapting to it.

    Patrick won't get adjusted to game speed until he plays more minutes.

    Konecny and Sanheim won't get better defensively by being stapled to the bench in the 3rd period
     

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