25 Greatest Philadelphia Flyers of the Last 25 Years (1992-2017)-#24

[Lotusflower]

Dog days of summer so I thought this would be a good time to try to put this together.

Just picked Patrick 2nd obviously and with a ton of new faces both already on the team and ready to debut in '17 it feels like the beginning of a new era for the franchise.

25 is also a tidy number so of course there's that as well.

Spanning the beginning of the Lindros era (give or take) til now which players make up the board's consensus for best of the last 25 years? I added goalies as well because I want a hard and fast and more or less "definitive" list.

Use your own criteria for your decision and after you vote if you feel like it post who you voted for and why.

*The way I've been voting is how the player in question played:
-FOR (only) the Flyers and
-DURING the window in question (Oct. of 1992- April of 2017) / Last 25 Years

Thanks all.

*We're starting to get down towards the slightly more obscure names so if there is anyone who you might vote for down the line that you dont see up here let me know so I can add them*

Winner of Poll #23 is: Kapanen, Sami. (Tiebreaker w/ Cechmanek, Roman)
Link to Previous Poll: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...rs-of-the-last-25-years-1992-2017-23.2396329/
Link to Tiebreaker: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...ast-25-years-1992-2017-23-tiebreaker.2397069/

25 Greatest Philadelphia Flyers of the Last 25 Years (1992-2017)
#1: Lindros, Eric (93-00) 486-290-369-659-84%
#2: LeClair, John (95-04) 649-333-310-643-42%
#3: Giroux, Claude (08-17) 656-180-395-575-61%
#4: Desjardins, Eric (95-06) 738-93-303-396-49%
#5: Recchi, Mark (92-95, 99-04) 602-232-395-627-44%
#6: Brind'Amour, Rod (92-00) 633-235-366-601-69%
#7: Gagne, Simon (99-10,13) 691-264-271-535-71%
#8: Timonen, Kimmo (08-14) 519-38-232-270-68%
#9: Briere, Daniel (08-13) 364-124-159-283-47%
#10: Richards, Mike (06-11) 453-133-216-349-41%
#11: Voracek, Jakub (12-17) 445-116-238-354-33%
#12: Carter, Jeff (06-11) 461-181-162-343-44%
#13: Simmonds, Wayne (12-17) 447-163-142-305-32%
#14: Renberg, Mikael (93-97, 99-00) 366-128-168-296-39%
#15: Pronger, Chris (10-12) 145-15-77-92-28%
#16: Hextall, Ron (86-92, 94-99) 489-240-172-.895-56% (Tie-breaker w/ Primeau, Keith)
#17: Primeau, Keith (00-06) 312-87-126-213-92%
#18: Hartnell, Scott (08-14) 517-157-169-326-75%
#19: Roenick, Jeremy (02-04) 216-67-106-173-29%
#20: Forsberg, Peter (06-07) 100-30-85-115-44%
#21: Johnsson, Kim (02-06) 291-40-107-147-55%
#22: Knuble, Mike (06-13) 338-118-111-229-43%
#23: Kapanen, Sami (03-08) 311-44-66-110-73% (Tie-breaker w/ Cechmanek, Roman)

******My apologies. The new system only caps the poll choices at 20 so that's the reason for the lack of options. I tried to put the guys most likely to be voted into the last few spots but if there is someone you think deserves to be here let me know and i'll take note.
Mods can you inquire as to the possibility of this being changed to a similiar set-up as before? Thanks in advance

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[Sawdalite]

BOOOOOOSCH

Still can't vote for Chech-maniac... the Player who was hated by his Flyer teammates who shot pucks at his head during practice... He may of had a lot of talent, but he lacked the heart of a Flyer IMO.

I voted for Boucher... the long time Flyers goalie who served the Organization well and gave us all he had... leaving nothing on the table.

 

[Rebels57]

Boosh had 1 good season here.

Couturier should be voted in well before Boosh.

I went with Mason. 3rd all time in Wins.

 

[Sawdalite]

Boosh had 1 good season here.

Couturier should be voted in well before Boosh.

I went with Mason. 3rd all time in Wins.

With Boucher it was more the full tenure than the individual Seasons... or that great ShootOut that salvaged an entire Season and catapulted them into that magical long PostSeason -- had he been healthy and in goal against Chicago, could the Flyers have won Cup #3? -- He has always been a good and loyal soldier.

I'd vote for Mason, BTW... he was in the mix... Coots will be high in the ranking of the third Quarter Century Best, I'd guess... neither him nor Schenn have done enough IMO to be included here... and now.

I'm more against Check-maniac than for any other single Player,at this point... I can be swayed off Booooosch, if need be.


EDIT PS: I would not be at all opposed to Bundy being included here at the final Players... would have voted for himin fact, if I though he had any chance.

 

[CelticPride]

No love for Dineen here eh?

 

[Rebels57]

@CelticPride Dineen would make my top 30 but not top 25.

 

[Sawdalite]

BREAKING NEWS!!!!


The Boucher contingent has given its full support to fellow Goalie Steve Mason... throwing a monkey wrench into the Poll, and causing a deadlock... Please join the movement.

 

[Sawdalite]

No love for Dineen here eh?

I was never a Dineen fan... IMO he was in the right place at the right time... with the right Head Coach supporting him. Other than being the Captain of a bad Team, he added little to nothing.

 

[Rebels57]

I was never a Dineen fan... IMO he was in the right place at the right time... with the right Head Coach supporting him. Other than being the Captain of a bad Team, he added little to nothing.

I was a bigger Rob DiMaio fan to be honest. I was very young though. Those were the first teams I can remember.

 

[Lotusflower]

People actually voted Therien? Good lord, how soon they forget. He was the MacDonald of the 90's.

 

[Rebels57]

People actually voted Therien? Good lord, how soon they forget. He was the MacDonald of the 90's.

Yup. He had no business playing top pair with Rico but did for years. Only played well against Jagr.

 

[Sawdalite]

Yup. He had no business playing top pair with Rico but did for years. Only played well against Jagr.

Odd how their numbers and the Teams were so good with them as the First Pair, huh?

 

[Lotusflower]

Saw, come now my friend. One of my vivid childhood memories, multiple in this case, is watching my pop throw expletives at the radio around the words "Therien" over and over back in the 90's.

Those 90's Flyers teams were stacked. They had elite talent. Thats why they were good they won in spite of Therien not because of him.

He was the Macdonald of the 90's. Bottom pairing on bad teams should have been his fate. He lucked into a good situation and made the most of it. The fact that he was a class act, which im not disputing; im sure he's a great guy, doesnt excuse the fact that he was a trash player.

Good lord could you imagine if Macdonald lasts 750+ games in a Flyer uniform? it would be legend.

 

[Sawdalite]

Saw, come now my friend. One of my vivid childhood memories, multiple in this case, is watching my pop throw expletives at the radio around the words "Therien" over and over back in the 90's.

Those 90's Flyers teams were stacked. They had elite talent. Thats why they were good they won in spite of Therien not because of him.

He was the Macdonald of the 90's. Bottom pairing on bad teams should have been his fate. He lucked into a good situation and made the most of it. The fact that he was a class act, which im not disputing; im sure he's a great guy, doesnt excuse the fact that he was a trash player.

Good lord could you imagine if Macdonald lasts 750+ games in a Flyer uniform? it would be legend.

Yeah... you know how Organizations just love playing marginal third pairing stiffs on their top pair... just to even out the playing fields against their opponents... how they exhibit spite by not following the advise of their armchair GMs... I just don't know how these Teams survive the many decades while not caving into Fans whining wins.

Seriously, Lotus, you father is a part of the longstanding tradition in Flyerdom latching onto a ceremonial D-Man Scape goat and riding him for as long as he is on the Team... After all why pay millions of dollars to Management when the Fans know so much more... when they are not working in their normal occupations.

There is a litany of alumni D-Men scattered along the Flyers highway... repeatedly run over by the FlyerFaithful.

Bundy didn't play all those Seasons and collect all those paychecks by being a useless hack... and odds are Rico never asked to have him removed from his pairing.

 

[Sawdalite]

Thanks for reminding me about him... Go, Bundy.

 

[Rebels57]

Therien sucked. Deal with it dude.

 

[Sawdalite]

Therien sucked. Deal with it dude.

I wish I sucked like Bundy... LOL... I'm dealing just fine... and he's satisfied, I'm certain.

I go more off of a Player's NHL resume than I do from Fan opinion.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I wish I sucked like Bundy... LOL... I'm dealing just fine... and he's satisfied, I'm certain.

I go more off of a Player's NHL resume than I do from Fan opinion.

Saw, I don't want to pile on or anything, and I respect your opinion, but Bundy really wasn't very good. We "settled" for him because we couldn't find better - we did a lot of that, settling for sub-par defensemen, for a very long time, as we did with goaltenders. While Holmgren and Clarkie certainly did their best at attempting to fix the goaltending situation over and over, I always felt like they didn't have a good feel for defensemen. Having said this, they did what they could to a large extent and just didn't have much luck. With so much less movement of players back then, we really needed to draft D men well, and the less said about that, the better. We tried to patch the D corps around Bundy because he could function at the NHL level, especially in that era, but I feel like we shouldn't re-write history and make him more than he was.

I really hope he doesn't come on here and read this (not that he would), because he is a nice guy and I really like him on the broadcasts, sincerely. Which will amaze most of you lol.

 

[Sawdalite]

Saw, I don't want to pile on or anything, and I respect your opinion, but Bundy really wasn't very good. We "settled" for him because we couldn't find better - we did a lot of that, settling for sub-par defensemen, for a very long time, as we did with goaltenders. While Holmgren and Clarkie certainly did their best at attempting to fix the goaltending situation over and over, I always felt like they didn't have a good feel for defensemen. Having said this, they did what they could to a large extent and just didn't have much luck. With so much less movement of players back then, we really needed to draft D men well, and the less said about that, the better. We tried to patch the D corps around Bundy because he could function at the NHL level, especially in that era, but I feel like we shouldn't re-write history and make him more than he was.

I really hope he doesn't come on here and read this (not that he would), because he is a nice guy and I really like him on the broadcasts, sincerely. Which will amaze most of you lol.

Let's not rewrite history... let's revisit facts... IIRC Bundy played more games than any other Flyers D-Man... when he played the Flyers were perennial contenders and we always held hope... we always made the PostSeason... Bundy was not an offensive D-Man but was a complimentary partner for our true Number One... Rico played his best when paired with him... he was not a great D-Man but was also not a stiff who lucked into an NHL job... he was nowhere near the Player some would have use believe he was... he was one of the long line of successive scapegoats who Fans chose to ride... if he were not worthy he would not have been on the Team all those years and certainly not been teamed up with Rico on the top pair.

I'm not trying to make him more than what he was... I'm just not pretending that he was as bad as some people would suggest... Flyers Fans have to boo and hate and blame... God help the Player they choose.

While not great, Bundy served the Flyers well for longer than any other D-Man... it is not like he should not be considered for this List.

Pile on all you want.. but please don't expect me to join the crowd who get on him... nor the Scapegoat du jour.

 

[Beef Invictus]

It's not Carle.