you are so correct on this, The first other ranking sites at this point just look at points( first)
Look at there ranking system: ( example)
Just from this you will be able to tell how good a player is on these 7 points. This is house or Rec hockey evaluations. And they NEVER look at +/-
Skating 5
Puck Skills 4
Scoring/Skill 4
Work Ethic 5
Physical Play 4
Character/Intangible 4
Game Rating 4.333333333
Draft Projection TBD
Those players you mentioned will be seen by the WHL/ CJHL Scouts and depending USHL. Not so much NAHL. Then when certain players get drafted high who were not on their list they consider it a shock. The WHL Scouts watch a team for 9 or 10 times to see players.
How is the def player in his zone ?
How does he play in the Neutral zone ?
How is he is the off zone ?
Below are a few questions just in the def zone for a def player.
1 - Poor, 2 – Fair, 3 – Good, 4 – Very Good, 5 – Excellent | | | | | | |
Defensive Zone Assessment –Defense Only | | | | | | |
Explanation of Tactic: Can / Do you: | Ranking | | | | | |
1 | Angle opponents into corner in one on one situations? | 1 | 2 | 3 | X | 5 |
2 | Keep stick on ice at all times to deflect passes (unless tying up man)? | 1 | 2 | X | 4 | 5 |
3 | Position yourself so as to see puck and man in front of net (when 3rd forward in slot)? | 1 | 2 | 3 | X | 5 |
4 | Control opponent's stick? | 1 | 2 | 3 | X | 5 |
5 | Play Strong in front of net? | 1 | X | 3 | 4 | 5 |
6 | On breakout, move puck up quickly to forwards? | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | X |
7 | Get open and make yourself available as an outlet option? | 1 | 2 | X | 4 | 5 |
8 | Finish all checks down low (Corners, below goal-line)? | 1 | 2 | X | 4 | 5 |
9 | Win corner and back wall battles? | 1 | 2 | 3 | X | 5 |
10 | Take whistle when in trouble? | 1 | 2 | X | 4 | 5 |
11 | Keep on defensive side of check (between puck and net)? | 1 | 2 | 3 | X | 5 |
12 | Keep puck on defensive side of body when under pressure and clearing/breaking out? | 1 | 2 | X | 4 | 5 |
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The 2 ranking websites try, but they fall short on many levels. Yes we could all pick the top 5-10.
But they have players from 10-20 which are not even on the top 60, when you do a full report and when you do your home work.
I dont think they pay alot for the services that the scouts provide so you get what you get. A s a example: Its very hard to judge St Georges players when they play against teams in their division.
Only at tournaments is where you can see them play apples to apples.
This player here received a 274 out of 395. No one gets all 5's and if it was all 3 's it would be 197.
If fact not many 5's are given at this age, and you have to watch a game where the team is expected to lose. Watching teams win 11-0 is a waste of time for all parties.
So do not worry kids on teams that are not as strong as others will be seen and noticed if they play in widely publicized to tournaments.
Sorry this is long, but as stated before WEHP and Draft Geek are just opinions. BTW if you see a scout talk with them they dont bite, But not during a game.