NHL Entry Draft 2018 Tank Thread | Why Not Us? Why Not Now? | Sens Finish 30th, TOP 5 PICK GUARANTEED

[Alex1234]

WE NEED HELP AT THE D POSITION ASAP FFS

 

[SPF6ty9]

Eh, we was one of the older players in the draft and couldn’t even produce at a ppg pace, that’s not a high ceiling guy to me. If we wanted a high ceiling prospect we would have drafted the player like Sprong,Kylington,Bracco and Anderson with the pick.

Agreed, he was more what I'd call a project, tantalizing physical attributes you hope you can turn into a player. A high ceiling guy to me is someone with elite hockey skills and the numbers that back it up. Oftentimes having some perceived negative that drops them further then you'd expect them to go, ie. attitude or size.

 

[Sensinitis]

WE NEED HELP AT THE D POSITION ASAP FFS

You're right but imagine we get Svechnikov and sign DeHaan...

You would have Stone, Duchene, Hoffman, Svechnikov up front. Whoa. Put all those guys + Karlsson on the PP. Or put one of them on PP2 with Chabot and special teams alone would put us as a bubble team lol.

 

[Karl Prime]

You're right but imagine we get Svechnikov and sign DeHaan...

You would have Stone, Duchene, Hoffman, Svechnikov up front. Whoa. Put all those guys + Karlsson on the PP. Or put one of them on PP2 with Chabot and special teams alone would put us as a bubble team lol.

I don't have any faith in the PP so long as they don't realize Karlsson can't be the #1 option. To me it's no coincidence the last time our PP was even average was 13-14 with Spezza. A forward has to be the guy running things from the half-wall.

 

[Langdon Alger]

You're right but imagine we get Svechnikov and sign DeHaan...

You would have Stone, Duchene, Hoffman, Svechnikov up front. Whoa. Put all those guys + Karlsson on the PP. Or put one of them on PP2 with Chabot and special teams alone would put us as a bubble team lol.

I wonder what kind of contract DeHaan will be looking for.

 

[DJB]

I wonder what kind of contract DeHaan will be looking for.

Big money likely. I'd guess 5 + and no way are we paying that.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Edmonton wins tonight. Good for us.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Big money likely. I'd guess 5 + and no way are we paying that.

Sigh.

With half decent ownership we’d have a decent shot of getting him. We could have pretty good team next year too.

 

[The Lewler]

Canucks play the Coyotes today.

C'mon OT/SO!

 

[topshelf15]

WE NEED HELP AT THE D POSITION ASAP FFS

Goaltending and being better at possession can make average defenders look much better..Not saying I dont disagree ,but a high calibre forward would also be a huge help for this team

 

[UnHappyDude]

Yeah we need D man help now. Drafting a D isn't going to make us better next year

 

[BonkTastic]

WE NEED HELP AT THE D POSITION ASAP FFS

We should look to see if we can move Gaborik's ridiculously overpaid salary and flip him to a team for an equally overpriced defenceman.

Maybe we could even get younger in the process! I mean, I'm not asking a ton here, but Gaborik is 36 years old... even if we could get like, a 32ish year old defenceman for him, that would be fine. That's still an upgrade in that regard. Gaborik is going to be 39 when his contract is up, it literally can't get worse than that.

Doesn't even have to be a great defenceman. Just some guy who could reasonably pass for a #4 guy? You know, passably good, like... has flaws, but is still good enough to contribute. Maybe he was a better player in his youth, and got a big contract based on reputation, and now the team wants out of it. Just target a team who has a guy like that on a bad contract, like around $7mil/year. Yeah, Gaborik's cap hit is like $5+, but the way I see it, I'd rather pay an extra $2 mil a year for a guy who is actually somewhat useful (if flawed) who plays a position that is hard (and expensive) to find and retain, than a guy who is completely done at the NHL level at a position that is literally the easiest position in hockey to find depth at.

Gaborik is totally useless and a sunk cost, might as well use that money to upgrade the blueline a bit if we can find a sucker to make that kind of trade.

 

[armani]

Stone's not traveling with the team to Florida. With the way Andy and King Karl's leaking goals while they're on ice, tankers rejoice!

 

[Karl Prime]

We should look to see if we can move Gaborik's ridiculously overpaid salary and flip him to a team for an equally overpriced defenceman.

Maybe we could even get younger in the process! I mean, I'm not asking a ton here, but Gaborik is 36 years old... even if we could get like, a 32ish year old defenceman for him, that would be fine. That's still an upgrade in that regard. Gaborik is going to be 39 when his contract is up, it literally can't get worse than that.

Doesn't even have to be a great defenceman. Just some guy who could reasonably pass for a #4 guy? You know, passably good, like... has flaws, but is still good enough to contribute. Maybe he was a better player in his youth, and got a big contract based on reputation, and now the team wants out of it. Just target a team who has a guy like that on a bad contract, like around $7mil/year. Yeah, Gaborik's cap hit is like $5+, but the way I see it, I'd rather pay an extra $2 mil a year for a guy who is actually somewhat useful (if flawed) who plays a position that is hard (and expensive) to find and retain, than a guy who is completely done at the NHL level at a position that is literally the easiest position in hockey to find depth at.

Gaborik is totally useless and a sunk cost, might as well use that money to upgrade the blueline a bit if we can find a sucker to make that kind of trade.

I see what you're getting at .... maybe someone like the guy who's name rhymes with Rion Lanoof?

 

[HSF]

Stone is so injury prone

 

[JimmySpaetzle]

Buffalo is only one point behind now... they’ve played two more games than us but still

 

[pzeeman]

We should look to see if we can move Gaborik's ridiculously overpaid salary and flip him to a team for an equally overpriced defenceman.

Maybe we could even get younger in the process! I mean, I'm not asking a ton here, but Gaborik is 36 years old... even if we could get like, a 32ish year old defenceman for him, that would be fine. That's still an upgrade in that regard. Gaborik is going to be 39 when his contract is up, it literally can't get worse than that.

Doesn't even have to be a great defenceman. Just some guy who could reasonably pass for a #4 guy? You know, passably good, like... has flaws, but is still good enough to contribute. Maybe he was a better player in his youth, and got a big contract based on reputation, and now the team wants out of it. Just target a team who has a guy like that on a bad contract, like around $7mil/year. Yeah, Gaborik's cap hit is like $5+, but the way I see it, I'd rather pay an extra $2 mil a year for a guy who is actually somewhat useful (if flawed) who plays a position that is hard (and expensive) to find and retain, than a guy who is completely done at the NHL level at a position that is literally the easiest position in hockey to find depth at.

Gaborik is totally useless and a sunk cost, might as well use that money to upgrade the blueline a bit if we can find a sucker to make that kind of trade.

I think DAL has someone like that. Local guy too.

 

[Cosmix]

I keep simming the draft lottery and we're usually pick 4-7

That’s what the odds are. If the Senators finish third last, then the probability is the Senators will draft 6th I believe based on the draft lottery odds I saw recently.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Stone's not traveling with the team to Florida. With the way Andy and King Karl's leaking goals while they're on ice, tankers rejoice!

Hopefully it’s not serious, but if he misses 2-3 games or so it will help with the tank.

 

[Cosmix]

Buffalo is only one point behind now... we’ve played two more games than them but still

Not right.

Current NHL standings show:
MONTREAL 68 GP 62 PTS
Vancouver 68 GP. 59 PTS
Ottawa. 67 GP. 57 PTS
Buffalo 69 GP. 56 PTS
Arizona. 67 GP. 53 Pts

 

[Karl Prime]

Yeah we need D man help now. Drafting a D isn't going to make us better next year

Unless it's Dahlin. He's going to be in the NHL next season no doubt.

 

[Cosmix]

We should look to see if we can move Gaborik's ridiculously overpaid salary and flip him to a team for an equally overpriced defenceman.

Maybe we could even get younger in the process! I mean, I'm not asking a ton here, but Gaborik is 36 years old... even if we could get like, a 32ish year old defenceman for him, that would be fine. That's still an upgrade in that regard. Gaborik is going to be 39 when his contract is up, it literally can't get worse than that.

Doesn't even have to be a great defenceman. Just some guy who could reasonably pass for a #4 guy? You know, passably good, like... has flaws, but is still good enough to contribute. Maybe he was a better player in his youth, and got a big contract based on reputation, and now the team wants out of it. Just target a team who has a guy like that on a bad contract, like around $7mil/year. Yeah, Gaborik's cap hit is like $5+, but the way I see it, I'd rather pay an extra $2 mil a year for a guy who is actually somewhat useful (if flawed) who plays a position that is hard (and expensive) to find and retain, than a guy who is completely done at the NHL level at a position that is literally the easiest position in hockey to find depth at.

Gaborik is totally useless and a sunk cost, might as well use that money to upgrade the blueline a bit if we can find a sucker to make that kind of trade.

History lesson:
1. Sign Michalek and Greening
2. Trade them for Phaneuf
3. Trade Phaneuf for Gaborik
4. Trade Gaborik for another dud.

Ugh!

Just buy him out and get on with the rebuild with youth.

 

[Six Assets]

Not right.

Current NHL standings show:
MONTREAL 68 GP 62 PTS
Vancouver 68 GP. 59 PTS
Ottawa. 67 GP. 57 PTS
Buffalo 69 GP. 56 PTS
Arizona. 67 GP. 53 Pts

damn. close standings. A win streak will hurt.

 

[Cosmix]

damn. close standings. A win streak will hurt.

Yes. A losing streak would be great and increase the probability of getting a higher draft pick.

 

[DJB]

With a Chicago win its unlikely we catch them. So a top 8 selection is pretty much wrapped up barring a big run and 3 teams behind us jumping us at the lottery