Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Entry Draft Discussion: 3 Months to Go!

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Who is BPA available at 24?

  1. Benoit-Oliver Groulx - C

  2. Jacob Olofsson - C

  3. Dominik Bokk - C

  4. Ryan Merkley - RD

  5. Rasmus Sandin - LD

  6. Jett Woo -RD

  7. Miller LD/Samuellsson LD/Thomas LW (3/8 appearances)

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  1. DraftGuru

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    Jay O'Brien has been on my hitlist for a while. We probably wont see him still on the board at 52. A lot of American C's all bunched up in that neighborhood though...O'Brien, McLaughlan, Drury, Madden, Steeves and a few others. Could O'brien slip through? Perhaps...but unlikely.
     
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    I finally did some research, and I really want Jett Woo. He seems like the perfect second pairing guy that would eventually slot in under Liljegren. A future top 4 of Reilly - Lily/Dermott - Woo would be awesome if everyone projects. Woo seems like the type of badass that we lack in the system. He's not even top 31 in the latest ISS rankings, but with his injury, he has been a hard one to scout accurately apparently (sounds just like when we drafted Reilly). Since I think we will be picking 30th or 31st :naughty:, he might drop to us. Plus that name. Think of the potential for Joe Bowen.
     
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    I believe his injuries have been concussion related which I would treat a little differently than Morgan Rielly's injury in his draft year. Multiple concussions before the age of 18 are worrysome, considering he makes his bread and butter playing a physical game.
     
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    Albin Eriksson

    Looks a little like Blake Wheeler in that video. Pretty young for the draft too.
     
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    He's ranked around the 3rd-4th round isn't he?
     
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    I would compare him similarly to Dermott, just better defensively, less inclined offensively. Ultimately would make the D cores really balanced. Rielly - Woo (projecting him to be solid enough to handle this) and then Dermott - Liljegren.
     
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    I think if we wanted to get him, we might have to reach a little bit early and take him with our 2nd round pick (52). I don't think he would be there if we waited until our 3rd round selection (83)
     
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    Sounds right.
     
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    According to elite prospects, O'Brien has won the US highschool player of the year award and puts up pretty decent numbers at that level. He's not gotten too much ushl exposure, heading to the NCAA, but he could be a savvy pick up with a payoff in the long run. Nevertheless I haven't seen him play and would be a little wary if the Leafs expend a high pick for him.
     
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    Button has him at 29. I think he is a late second everywhere else.
     
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    I would be more content in using a 3rd for O'Brien than a 2nd since there are much safer picks in the 2nd round than him but he stood out in the All American prospects game, has all the tools....skating, good shot, 200 ft game and was decent in the faceoff circle. There are a couple of his full games on YouTube but its a bit harder to guage his skill based on that level of competition. With his limited showing, if a team takes him in the 2nd, I imagine it will be one with multiple picks who can afford to swing and miss but could be rewarded. I've seen O'Brien as high as late 1st/early 2nd and as low as mid/ late 3rd.
     
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    what.s the best position we can have in the draft if boston eliminates us in the first round??
     
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    Worst: 24

    Likely 22 or 23.
     
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    i'd throw a second at him.

    for our first round, my xmas list in order is one of:

    kravstov
    denisenko
    kotkaniemi (he could drop)
    kupari
    samuelsson
    thomas

    second would be

    eriksson
    obrien
    sandin
    woo
    mcbain
    miller

    hunter will probably pick a russian we never heard of.
     
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    Shanahan and Hunter were at multiple u18 practices recently. I am sure they were giving Ty Dellandrea, McBain and Merkley a close look. I heard McBain has looked very good in practice. It seems like he always shows up for these international tournaments. I hope with his unimpressive stats, that its just him playing down to the level of the competition and his teammates....Dellandrea is probably a safe pick. He reminds me of Ryan O'Rielly....hard working, do it all type. Also one of the younger players in the draft.
     
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    Even Dellandrea's international tournaments don't seem that impressive. McBain at least has that going for him even if he was playing in a lesser league.
     
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    I think it all comes down to if they figure if McBain's skating can and will improve, if management thinks he is worthy of a 1st round pick. He does tick a lot of boxes and comes from good bloodlines. Another Center who will be there if Fillip Hallander. Where Olofsson is getting most of the press as being a 1st round pick, Hallander might be the better selection.

    Getting back to Dellandrea, I see him as being one of the younger players in the draft, playing for a bad team in Flint putting up near PPG numbers, above 50% in faceoffs and if you read the countless articles is a great kid off the ice as well. If I recall, his International duty, namely last years Hlinka, he got 4th line mins and minimal PP time. I would like it if he slips to the 2nd round and we can nab him at 52 but he probably wont be there. I know Central Scouting has him ranked in the 70s I believe, but he should move way up.

    My top picks for the 1st two rounds would have to be
    1) Akil Thomas/Filip Hallander
    2) Jakub Lauko/ Ty Dellandrea/Jack Mcbain
    I think this is a draft where since we have so many similar tiered players, especially from 30 to 60, to trade down and get an extra 2nd round pick. Even though I dont think McBain and Dellandrea will be there at 52, that is where I'd take them since I think Thomas and Hallander are quite a bit better IMO. It is going to certainly going to be an interesting draft. Perhaps the Leafs figure their top notch developmental program could fix Merkley's deficiencies and they roll the dice and select him. I am optimistic, I totally wouldn't hate it if we hear Mark Hunter call Ryan Merkley's name in the 1st round.
     
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    I thought Hallander was considered more wing then centre ?
     
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    Playing for Timra, he has played all 3 forward positions. He is moved around quite a bit but is quite accomplished centerman.
     
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    Being only 17 in a men's league he probably played 75% LW but it doesnt mean he doesnt have the acumen to play Center. Throughout the Timra ranks growing up he played mostly center. Whether or not that translates into him playing down the middle in the NHL, is hard to say but we can probably use another good LW if worse comes to worse.
     
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    Every draft is the most important draft yet. The ability of the scouting staff to unearth a future core player this year in the 20s will dictate whether the Leafs have a good handle over cap issues and can keep adding to the incomplete core, or if we'll slowly start to run out of reinforcements.
     
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    This is why this year I'd be all for trading down. Usually I want quality over quantity, but I'm just not sure the players available from 20-60 this year are all that different. With that said, I'd rather trade down and take more cracks at finding a diamond or diamonds in the rough.
     
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    I'd almost rather package it with other assets for a competent Top 4 RHD.
     
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    Not sure how teams in contention actually find the time and assets to trade for futures, but it seems like that's something the Leafs need to start figuring out. If the rebuild didn't get off to such a hot start, that 2018 pick would have been more of a guaranteed cornerstone, and possibly selling off JVR and Bozak would have likely yielded between them 2 young assets, 1st and maybe a 2nd or couple of mid round picks. That's like an entire crop of middle six forwards and a top four defenseman we're missing.
     

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