Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Draft

Henkka · Mar 19, 2018

Cyborg Yzerberg said:
I think taking Evan Bouchard over Svechnikov or Zadina would be a huge misfire. Yes, defense is our biggest organizational hole, but I think those two players make a larger impact than Boqvist, Bouchard, Hughes, or any of the guys after Dahlin. Obviously if we pick 4-10, defense is an absolute priority, but those are franchise wingers.

My point wasn't the Red Wings list to be in "right" order.

It was that every team could have different kind of lists and still get their TOP2-3 favourite player from 2nd to 7th overall.

Frk It · Mar 19, 2018

The Zetterberg Era said:
I like a lot of the guys in this draft. I think my top 5 is pretty set in stone though.

I don't like Zadina has as much upside as Svechnikov and Tkachuk. I am really high on Hughes and Bouchard is also why I have them in front. He is a very good player, we shouldn't be upset if he is added to the ranks.

I really wish one of the big three forwards was right shot though

Wahlstrom is right handed and I think he would pair excellently with Larkin. He’s a RH sniper with skill and size.

The Zetterberg Era · Mar 19, 2018

Frk It said:
Wahlstrom is right handed and I think he would pair excellently with Larkin. He’s a RH sniper with skill and size.

I think he would be a good fit with Larkin. I just don't think he has the same kind of ceiling as the big three up front this year. But again it is hard to get too upset about the Top 10 this year. I know that will likely change in a few years, let's hope we don't wind up with the Jessiman pick...

Frk It · Mar 19, 2018

The Zetterberg Era said:
I think he would be a good fit with Larkin. I just don't think he has the same kind of ceiling as the big three up front this year. But again it is hard to get too upset about the Top 10 this year. I know that will likely change in a few years, let's hope we don't wind up with the Jessiman pick...

Well, guess it depends how you rank your forwards. My top 3 would be Svech/Zadina/Wahlstrom and then Tkachuk would be a very close 4.

I like all of those guys, but I don’t see what Wahlstrom lacks to say he doesn’t have a high ceiling. He’s also one of the younger guys in this class. Watch him destroy the NCAA or Q next year. He’s got a big frame, good hands, and can shoot the shit out of the puck.

If we had been taking guys like Nick Suzuki, I would probably lean towards taking someone like Tkachuk. But we need gamebreakers, so I am ranking them based on that.

The Zetterberg Era · Mar 19, 2018

Frk It said:
Well, guess it depends how you rank your forwards. My top 3 would be Svech/Zadina/Wahlstrom and then Tkachuk would be a very close 4.

I like all of those guys, but I don’t see what Wahlstrom lacks to say he doesn’t have a high ceiling. He’s also one of the younger guys in this class. Watch him destroy the NCAA or Q next year. He’s got a big frame, good hands, and can shoot the **** out of the puck.

If we had been taking guys like Nick Suzuki, I would probably lean towards taking someone like Tkachuk. But we need gamebreakers, so I am ranking them based on that.

I think Brady Tkachuk is going to break a lot of games.

What if Corey Perry skated better... I think he is the answer to that question. I think that highly of Tkachuk.

I am starting to feel though that this is the best draft since 03 as we run into it.

Frk It · Mar 19, 2018

The Zetterberg Era said:
I think Brady Tkachuk is going to break a lot of games.

What if Corey Perry skated better... I think he is the answer to that question. I think that highly of Tkachuk.

Interesting. I guess that cluster of wingers after Svech is pretty close for me. Honestly I really like this crop of USA kids, I’d be happy with any of Wahlstrom, Hughes, or Tkachuk the more I think about it. I’m sure Larkin would take any of them too.

The Zetterberg Era · Mar 20, 2018

Frk It said:
Interesting. I guess that cluster of wingers after Svech is pretty close for me. Honestly I really like this crop of USA kids, I’d be happy with any of Wahlstrom, Hughes, or Tkachuk the more I think about it. I’m sure Larkin would take any of them too.

Yeah I like all three.

In the top 9 I listed I won't be upset about a single one of those guys. There will be players I prefer for sure but we should be getting a heck of a hockey player.

I think the Wings would really like that Tkachuk allows them to go heavy skill but fits the identity of the players they have been drafting. He is that rare mold kind of player, it would be a very intriguing addition is all I am saying. I also think he could make Larkin a lot better too. It also might free up the correct deal of Mantha or AA for the defensive help we need or maybe we just have our top 6 mostly figured out.

Still some of this needs to be decided and we have more evaluation to go.

Frk It · Mar 20, 2018

The Zetterberg Era said:
Yeah I like all three.

In the top 9 I listed I won't be upset about a single one of those guys. There will be players I prefer for sure but we should be getting a heck of a hockey player.

I think the Wings would really like that Tkachuk allows them to go heavy skill but fits the identity of the players they have been drafting. He is that rare mold kind of player, it would be a very intriguing addition is all I am saying. I also think he could make Larkin a lot better too. It also might free up the correct deal of Mantha or AA for the defensive help we need or maybe we just have our top 6 mostly figured out.

Still some of this needs to be decided and we have more evaluation to go.

Good points. It’s funny you wish those forwards were right handed, and I wish Dobson or Bouchard were left handed.

I think Bouchard should be hard for Detroit to pass on for a winger. The offensive production is just insane and hard to ignore. Dobson looks like he could be Pieterangelo 2.0 with his size and skating.

Then your guy Hughes, I wish he was taller but the skating and the skill is unreal. With how much Ghost has improved his overall game this year, that gives me hope Hughes can be more than a specialist.

In my head I was likening Tkachuk to JVR, but I think I was just locked into thinking of other USA guys.

Henkka · Mar 20, 2018

The Zetterberg Era said:
I am starting to feel though that this is the best draft since 03 as we run into it.

Could it be because of many National programs going strong? Czechs are coming again, and Finland doing well like latest years. USA hockey is really booming and Canada is strong as always. Also Sweden and Russia on producing talents at normal level.

All these things together are making a deep class ?

TheMule93 · Mar 20, 2018

Well we picked a good year to suck and stockpile draft picks

Hadoop · Mar 20, 2018

TheMule93 said:
Well we picked a good year to suck and stockpile draft picks

So true. That second rounder from Ottawa is looking good too. Even the Vegas first might end up in the 20-25 range.

jkutswings · Mar 20, 2018

Here is a site that includes a dozen different ranking lists, most recently updated anywhere from January to March:

2018 NHL Draft Rankings

And yeah, this could be such a tremendous opportunity, having 4 of the top 40 picks in what seems to be a good draft.

I can't even imagine if they somehow won the Dahlin sweepstakes on top of it all. :partytime:

Marky9er · Mar 20, 2018

jkutswings said:
Here is a site that includes a dozen different ranking lists, most recently updated anywhere from January to March:

2018 NHL Draft Rankings

And yeah, this could be such a tremendous opportunity, having 4 of the top 40 picks in what seems to be a good draft.

I can't even imagine if they somehow won the Dahlin sweepstakes on top of it all.

I liked when this site used to average out all the different rankings into a consensus.

Rzombo4 prez · Mar 20, 2018

The Zetterberg Era said:
Yeah I like all three.

In the top 9 I listed I won't be upset about a single one of those guys. There will be players I prefer for sure but we should be getting a heck of a hockey player.

I share your sentiments about those 9 players. Like you I prefer some more than others, but the margins are very, very small and you won't find me complaining if we select any of them. If, however, we are in the top 8 and deviate from that list I will be disappointed. For this reason, I find the back part of the first round and the beginning of the second round much more interesting from a prospect perspective.

Henkka · Mar 20, 2018

jkutswings said:
Here is a site that includes a dozen different ranking lists, most recently updated anywhere from January to March:

2018 NHL Draft Rankings

I put some of them together with a weighted average. Used this table for player value points from every list. http://statsportsconsulting.com/main/wp-content/uploads/DraftPickValueChart2016_Schuckers.pdf

Here's the TOP 40.

Rank	Player	Pos	Nat.	Average
1.	Rasmus Dahlin - 6'2 L	LD	SWE	986.3	BUF
2.	Andrei Svechnikov - 6'3 L	RW	RUS	879.1	VAN
3.	Filip Zadina - 6'1 L	LW	CZE	813.3	ARZ
4.	Brady Tkachuk - 6'3 L	LW	USA	652.7	DET
5.	Adam Boqvist - 5'11 R	RD	SWE	636.0	MTL
6.	Quinton Hughes - 5'10 L	LD	USA	556.4	OTT
7.	Oliver Wahlström - 6'1 R	RW	USA	550.3	EDM
8.	Ty Smith - 5'10 L	LD	CAN	438.4	CHI
9.	Noah Dobson - 6'3 R	RD	CAN	416.0	NYI
10.	Joe Veleno - 6'1 L	C	CAN	403.7	NYR
11.	Evan Bouchard - 6'2 R	RD	CAN	399.7	CAR
12.	Joel Farabee - 5'11 L	LW	USA	393.3	NYI(CGY)
13.	Bode Wilde - 6'2 R	RD	USA	342.9	FLO
14.	Jesperi Kotkaniemi - 6'2 L	C	FIN	330.0	NJD
15.	Grigori Denisenko - 5'10 R	LW	RUS	321.4	DAL
16.	Rasmus Kupari - 5'11 R	C	FIN	320.7	PHI(STL)
17.	Barrett Hayton - 6'1 L	C	CAN	307.9	CBJ
18.	Ryan McLeod - 6'2 L	C	CAN	296.7	PHI
19.	Isac Lundeström - 6'0 L	LW	SWE	290.4	LAK
20.	Jared McIsaac - 6'1 L	LD	CAN	258.4	ANA
21.	Ryan Merkley - 5'11 R	RD	CAN	230.4	COL
22.	Akil Thomas - 5'11 R	C	CAN	222.7	PIT
23.	Dominik Bokk - 6'1 R	RW	GER	209.1	MIN
24.	K'Andre Miller - 6'3 L	LD	USA	206.7	WSH
25.	Jacob Olofsson - 6'2 L	C	SWE	190.9	SJS
26.	Benoit-Olivier Groulx - 6'1 L	C	CAN	187.1	TOR
27.	Serron Noel - 6'5 R	RW	CAN	174.7	WPG
28.	Jett Woo - 6'0 R	RD	CAN	171.6	DET(VGK)
29.	Martin Kaut - 6'1 R	RW	CZE	170.4	BOS
30.	Mattias Samuelsson - 6'4 L	LD	USA	160.1	TBL
31.	Alexander Alexeyev - 6'3 L	LD	RUS	159.6	NSH
32.	Vitali Kravtsov - 6'2 L	RW	RUS	158.9	BUF
33.	Calen Addison - 5'10 R	RD	CAN	156.6	VAN
34.	Jonny Tychonick - 5'11 L	LD	CAN	155.6	ARZ
35.	Jack McBain - 6'3 L	C	CAN	153.6	DET
36.	Nils Lundkvist - 5'11 R	RD	SWE	147.3	MTL
37.	Jesse Ylönen - 6'1 R	RW	FIN	139.6	DET(OTT)
38.	Alexander Khovanov - 5'11 L	C	RUS	138.9	EDM
39.	Jacob Bernard-Docker - 6'1 R	RD	CAN	134.4	CHI
40.	Adam Ginning - 6'3 L	LD	SWE	132.7	NYI

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18 defencemen in this TOP 40. :amazed:

Frk It · Mar 20, 2018

Rzombo4 prez said:
I share your sentiments about those 9 players. Like you I prefer some more than others, but the margins are very, very small and you won't find me complaining if we select any of them. If, however, we are in the top 8 and deviate from that list I will be disappointed. For this reason, I find the back part of the first round and the beginning of the second round much more interesting from a prospect perspective.

Who are you favorites in that range?

Avery Rule · Mar 20, 2018

Anyone get to see Mattias Samuelsson ? I have been curious about him.

Marky9er · Mar 20, 2018

Henkka said:
I put some of them together with a weighted average. Used this table for player value points from every list.
19 defencemen in this TOP 40.

That's awesome. Think McBain is a center though.

Zetterberg4Captain · Mar 20, 2018

Henkka said:
I put some of them together with a weighted average. Used this table for player value points from every list. http://statsportsconsulting.com/main/wp-content/uploads/DraftPickValueChart2016_Schuckers.pdf

Here's the TOP 40.

Rank Player Pos Nat. Average
1. Rasmus Dahlin - 6'2 L LD SWE 986.3 BUF
2. Andrei Svechnikov - 6'3 L RW RUS 879.1 VAN
3. Filip Zadina - 6'1 L LW CZE 813.3 ARZ
4. Brady Tkachuk - 6'3 L LW USA 652.7 DET
5. Adam Boqvist - 5'11 R RD SWE 636.0 MTL
6. Quinton Hughes - 5'10 L LD USA 556.4 OTT
7. Oliver Wahlström - 6'1 R RW USA 550.3 EDM
8. Ty Smith - 5'10 L LD CAN 438.4 CHI
9. Noah Dobson - 6'3 R RD CAN 416.0 NYI
10. Joe Veleno - 6'1 L C CAN 403.7 NYR
11. Evan Bouchard - 6'2 R RD CAN 399.7 CAR
12. Joel Farabee - 5'11 L LW USA 393.3 NYI(CGY)
13. Bode Wilde - 6'2 R RD USA 342.9 FLO
14. Jesperi Kotkaniemi - 6'2 L C FIN 330.0 NJD
15. Grigori Denisenko - 5'10 R LW RUS 321.4 DAL
16. Rasmus Kupari - 5'11 R C FIN 320.7 PHI(STL)
17. Barrett Hayton - 6'1 L C CAN 307.9 CBJ
18. Ryan McLeod - 6'2 L C CAN 296.7 PHI
19. Isac Lundeström - 6'0 L LW SWE 290.4 LAK
20. Jared McIsaac - 6'1 L LD CAN 258.4 ANA
21. Ryan Merkley - 5'11 R RD CAN 230.4 COL
22. Akil Thomas - 5'11 R C CAN 222.7 PIT
23. Dominik Bokk - 6'1 R RW GER 209.1 MIN
24. K'Andre Miller - 6'3 L LD USA 206.7 WSH
25. Jacob Olofsson - 6'2 L C SWE 190.9 SJS
26. Benoit-Olivier Groulx - 6'1 L C CAN 187.1 TOR
27. Serron Noel - 6'5 R RW CAN 174.7 WPG
28. Jett Woo - 6'0 R RD CAN 171.6 DET(VGK)
29. Martin Kaut - 6'1 R RW CZE 170.4 BOS
30. Mattias Samuelsson - 6'4 L LD USA 160.1 TBL
31. Alexander Alexeyev - 6'3 L LD RUS 159.6 NSH
32. Vitali Kravtsov - 6'2 L RW RUS 158.9 BUF
33. Calen Addison - 5'10 R RD CAN 156.6 VAN
34. Jonny Tychonick - 5'11 L LD CAN 155.6 ARZ
35. Jack McBain - 6'3 L LD CAN 153.6 DET
36. Nils Lundkvist - 5'11 R RD SWE 147.3 MTL
37. Jesse Ylönen - 6'1 R RW FIN 139.6 DET(OTT)
38. Alexander Khovanov - 5'11 L C RUS 138.9 EDM
39. Jacob Bernard-Docker - 6'1 R RD CAN 134.4 CHI
40. Adam Ginning - 6'3 L LD SWE 132.7 NYI
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19 defencemen in this TOP 40.

boqvist
woo
mcbain
khovanov

that would be my choices

Unfriendly Ghost · Mar 20, 2018

Bouchard
McIsaac/Veleno
Dellandrea
Khovanov/Alexeev/M. Samuelsson if he's still around at 38-ish

HisNoodliness · Mar 21, 2018

Henkka said:
I put some of them together with a weighted average. Used this table for player value points from every list. http://statsportsconsulting.com/main/wp-content/uploads/DraftPickValueChart2016_Schuckers.pdf

Here's the TOP 40.

Rank Player Pos Nat. Average
1. Rasmus Dahlin - 6'2 L LD SWE 986.3 BUF
2. Andrei Svechnikov - 6'3 L RW RUS 879.1 VAN
3. Filip Zadina - 6'1 L LW CZE 813.3 ARZ
4. Brady Tkachuk - 6'3 L LW USA 652.7 DET
5. Adam Boqvist - 5'11 R RD SWE 636.0 MTL
6. Quinton Hughes - 5'10 L LD USA 556.4 OTT
7. Oliver Wahlström - 6'1 R RW USA 550.3 EDM
8. Ty Smith - 5'10 L LD CAN 438.4 CHI
9. Noah Dobson - 6'3 R RD CAN 416.0 NYI
10. Joe Veleno - 6'1 L C CAN 403.7 NYR
11. Evan Bouchard - 6'2 R RD CAN 399.7 CAR
12. Joel Farabee - 5'11 L LW USA 393.3 NYI(CGY)
13. Bode Wilde - 6'2 R RD USA 342.9 FLO
14. Jesperi Kotkaniemi - 6'2 L C FIN 330.0 NJD
15. Grigori Denisenko - 5'10 R LW RUS 321.4 DAL
16. Rasmus Kupari - 5'11 R C FIN 320.7 PHI(STL)
17. Barrett Hayton - 6'1 L C CAN 307.9 CBJ
18. Ryan McLeod - 6'2 L C CAN 296.7 PHI
19. Isac Lundeström - 6'0 L LW SWE 290.4 LAK
20. Jared McIsaac - 6'1 L LD CAN 258.4 ANA
21. Ryan Merkley - 5'11 R RD CAN 230.4 COL
22. Akil Thomas - 5'11 R C CAN 222.7 PIT
23. Dominik Bokk - 6'1 R RW GER 209.1 MIN
24. K'Andre Miller - 6'3 L LD USA 206.7 WSH
25. Jacob Olofsson - 6'2 L C SWE 190.9 SJS
26. Benoit-Olivier Groulx - 6'1 L C CAN 187.1 TOR
27. Serron Noel - 6'5 R RW CAN 174.7 WPG
28. Jett Woo - 6'0 R RD CAN 171.6 DET(VGK)
29. Martin Kaut - 6'1 R RW CZE 170.4 BOS
30. Mattias Samuelsson - 6'4 L LD USA 160.1 TBL
31. Alexander Alexeyev - 6'3 L LD RUS 159.6 NSH
32. Vitali Kravtsov - 6'2 L RW RUS 158.9 BUF
33. Calen Addison - 5'10 R RD CAN 156.6 VAN
34. Jonny Tychonick - 5'11 L LD CAN 155.6 ARZ
35. Jack McBain - 6'3 L LD CAN 153.6 DET
36. Nils Lundkvist - 5'11 R RD SWE 147.3 MTL
37. Jesse Ylönen - 6'1 R RW FIN 139.6 DET(OTT)
38. Alexander Khovanov - 5'11 L C RUS 138.9 EDM
39. Jacob Bernard-Docker - 6'1 R RD CAN 134.4 CHI
40. Adam Ginning - 6'3 L LD SWE 132.7 NYI
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19 defencemen in this TOP 40.

Too bad to see Kaut rising into the first. Was hoping he could be had in the third or so if no one caught on. I'd say the Czech leagues are a great place to look for underscouted players but that seems to be changing.

waltdetroit · Mar 21, 2018

If the draft was today we (might) have the following 8 picks of the 1st 100 picks. I think we should be able to move up if someone the Wings likes falls into the 2nd or 3rd rounds
6. DET
28. VGS
35. OTT
37. DET
68. DET
79. PHI
83. PIT
99. DET

another ranking from Hockey writers:
https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-draft-ranking-march-2018-2/

Cyborg Yzerberg · Mar 21, 2018

Isn’t Bouchard one of the older kids in the draft and he really shot of this year? That sort of thing makes me nervous, I’d rather have Boqvist or Hughes.

RedWingzz · Mar 21, 2018

Frk It said:
Hayton is still riding out his Hlinka performance, Button always overvalues play in the international tournaments.

Otherwise I like his list for the most part.

I see Hayton going to the Flyers. He's their type of player.

Frk It · Mar 21, 2018

Cyborg Yzerberg said:
Isn’t Bouchard one of the older kids in the draft and he really shot of this year? That sort of thing makes me nervous, I’d rather have Boqvist or Hughes.

That’s true, and Zadina is one of the older guys as well. I used to be skeptical of late birthdates, but not so much anymore.

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