Speculation: 2018 NHL Draft Talk :)

[Cardiac Jerks]

I still can't believe we're picking #2 (please be Svech) & bringing in a top 10 prospect in Necas.

The Calder Trophy race is gonna be fun for us to follow next season.

Couture will win it. He deserves it more. Unless they hold his age against him.

 

[CandyCanes]

Couture will win it. He deserves it more. Unless they hold his age against him.

Plot twist. One of Zykov or Foegele will win it

 

[Cane mutiny]

Great resources. I'm about 30 minutes into Svechnikov's after starting with Zadina.

Svechnikov is fun to watch shift-by-shift. He's like the Slavin of offense in that he is constantly generating heady plays. A re-occurring theme which looks weird is that Svechnikov will have a puck and just mindlessly flick it away. It almost looks like is doing it negligently but those passes constantly find guys for prime scoring chances with the thought of "how did he even see that developing?". His playmaking might be even better than his shooting arsenal. He sees the play developing at an Aho-level.

Also worth noting that he floats from the dots to the net front on the PP creating screens and shooting lanes. That is a role the Canes could really use.

I agree. I think Svech is the more complete player. Zadina has a flashier style. He reminds me of Skinner, in that he's very fast and he really grabs your eye, but Svech has it all.
One thing I thought watching the clips, is how sloooow the play was compared to the NHL. Both of these guys are going to have a huge learning curve, so I need to temper my expectations for the next year or two.
Thanks, vorbis, for posting these clips. Very helpful in deciding who I'll take.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I agree. I think Svech is the more complete player. Zadina has a flashier style. He reminds me of Skinner, in that he's very fast and he really grabs your eye, but Svech has it all.
One thing I thought watching the clips, is how sloooow the play was compared to the NHL. Both of these guys are going to have a huge learning curve, so I need to temper my expectations for the next year or two.
Thanks, vorbis, for posting these clips. Very helpful in deciding who I'll take.

In the videos that I watched of the two, I thought that Svechnikov was the faster skater of the two.

 

[Cane mutiny]

In the videos that I watched of the two, I thought that Svechnikov was the faster skater of the two.

I didn't say he wasn't. I said Zadina is fast and grabs you eye... meaning with fast flashy moves, like Skinner stand out to me. Was not talking about straight skating, or taking anything away from Svech at all.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I didn't say he wasn't. I said Zadina is fast and grabs you eye... meaning with fast flashy moves, like Skinner stand out to me. Was not talking about straight skating, or taking anything away from Svech at all.

Ah, got it. I understand what you are saying now.

 

[MinJaBen]

His final rankings. He has Svechnikov at #1 and Dahlin at #2 as he said he would earlier.

I sure hope Buffalo doesn't get any ideas...

 

[GoldiFox]

NHL Scouting Combine starts 6 days from now. May 27th - June 2nd.

Seems like all major sports have been providing greater access to their Draft Combines. Hopefully we will get coverage of some sort. I’m interested to see Svechnikov’s final height/weight and how he tests.

 

[Unsustainable]

His final rankings. He has Svechnikov at #1 and Dahlin at #2 as he said he would earlier.

I sure hope Buffalo doesn't get any ideas...

Then we take Dahlin and trade Hanifin for Svechnikov since that’s GM Eichels BFF

 

[razor ray]

Latest NHL Mock Draft 2018: Andrei Svechnikov or Filip Zadina to Hurricanes? Rangers, Blackhawks, Islanders use multiple picks

 

[geehaad]

Then we take Dahlin and trade Hanifin for Svechnikov since that’s GM Eichels BFF

Do we win if we can get ROR for Hanifin...effectively turning Hanifin into a better player and getting a #1C? I'm not so sure...

 

[Chan790]

Do we win if we can get ROR for Hanifin...effectively turning Hanifin into a better player and getting a #1C? I'm not so sure...

If ROR is your 1C and you're looking to compete, you may be hard up. I just don't think he's the quality of top-line C a competitive team has.

I also think ROR for Hanifin is the kind of trade that might look terrible for us by the end of October 2019 and look worse with time. Peak-potential Hanifin is worth so much more than ROR.

 

[NotOpie]

I don't really think Hanifin is on the move. I think that's one of those deals where Waddell would have to have his socks knocked off. Sure, if Buffalo wanted to send us ROR and Cliff Pu for Hanifin, then sure, I'd consider it....but a) the Sabres aren't doing that and b) I'm not sure we need to do that deal.

Hanifin isn't the problem here. We just need to build a winning culture and he's just as likely to be a part as anybody.

 

[Hulkacaniac]

I don't really think Hanifin is on the move. I think that's one of those deals where Waddell would have to have his socks knocked off. Sure, if Buffalo wanted to send us ROR and Cliff Pu for Hanifin, then sure, I'd consider it....but a) the Sabres aren't doing that and b) I'm not sure we need to do that deal.

Hanifin isn't the problem here. We just need to build a winning culture and he's just as likely to be a part as anybody.

Translation: get good goaltending

 

[Svechhammer]

If we didn't have Necas coming in and we didn't already see that Aho can play C and we didn't land the #2 pick in the lottery, gifting us the top forward of the draft, I think we'd be exploring opportunities to move some of our defense for scoring help. But all of those things are happening, and there is a very good chance we are going to be able to reset and dramatically improve our offensive punch this year by doing nothing more than staying the course. If we still have faith that Hanifin can be the player we drafted him to be (and there is nothing to suggest he won't) then it would be a mistake to trade him this summer. For the first time in a long while, it certainly seems that staying the course, at least for anything but goalie, is the most prudent course of action for the team. (not to say Francis was at all justified in doing so. We literally had to win the lottery to be in this position, and he's a damn fool if that was his long term plan)

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Man, I don't know. When has penciling rookies in to solve our offensive problems ever worked... 2010 with Skinner?

I will be estimating 40 points for Svech and 35 points for Necas and won't budge on that even if they show up in training camp; major rookie production, especially from teenagers, should be a pleasant surprise, not something you bank on.

Agreed that it may change our long term plans (since Necas does project well), but for this coming season if we don't add a center I expect we will have similar struggles.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Also, am I reading correctly that between all the tournaments and everything, Necas played 41 games this year? That seems low.

 

[Svechhammer]

I wouldn't make a big move for this season. I agree that those 2 aren't going to come in and put up 50 points their first year, that's a silly expectation. But I am not willing to sell low on someone like Hanifin to bring in a player to be a 1-2 year stopgap while we wait for Necas and Svech to really get going. I think a move like that would be too short sighted and more harmful to us long-term than helpful. With better goaltending, we should be a team that makes the playoffs this year without going crazy with trades, so I'd bank on that happening and hope you can hold all your cards for the long-game.

Really, the only kind of trade I would be exploring now is the Skinner-Simmonds kind of deal being talked about on the Trade board, or maybe try and do something of Faulk or Skinner for a goalie.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I agree with the above, any help should come in the form of Skinner/Faulk types, and not the “new” core.

 

[Svechhammer]

I agree with the above, any help should come in the form of Skinner/Faulk types, and not the “new” core.

Yeah, I'd say the untouchables for us are 2OA, Aho, TT, Necas, Hanifin, Slavin, Pesce, and possibly Lindholm, depending on how the team itself values him going forward. I wouldn't move any of them unless it came with a seriously stupid overpayment that is an offer we just can't refuse. Everyone else? I think we should be willing to listen.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Translation: get good goaltending

Yep. There is never a good time for a goal tending crisis, but it really sucks having no idea what that situation will be like next season.

 

[Svechhammer]

Yep. There is never a good time for a goal tending crisis, but it really sucks having no idea what that situation will be like next season.

Oh I don't know, I very much enjoyed Edmonton's goaltending crisis in the 2006 Stanley Cup Finals.

 

[Stickpucker]

I could see Svech coming in and potting 25g with 35a depending on his linemates. Really......I could see more than that but am being conservative for once.

Necas...15g 30a. Maybe 20g 40a.

 

[bleedgreen]

30-40 pts tops for either, anything else is bonus and I don’t care if they get less.

 

[vorbis]

I think Necas’ production could be very spotty in his first season, though that wouldn’t really be a demerit on his prospect outlook since his skills are so good.

Svechnikov I think will put up numbers right away. maybe not 60, but I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised if he outproduces Hischier’s rookie year, even if the Canes offense doesn’t take a huge step forward.