Prospect Info: 2018-19 St. Louis Prospect Ranking by Ballot

[Ranksu]

I'll come back here when Mikkola and Walman are 25-years old and compare can they play NHL bottom pair Limited minutes and compare it to Schmaltz produce and perform.

 

[The Note in MI]

I'll come back here when Mikkola and Walman are 25-years old and compare can they play NHL bottom pair Limited minutes and compare it to Schmaltz produce and perform.

Not relevant to today’s discussion but sure that seems fair.

 

[taylord22]

How much of it is Schmaltz not being good enough to push Bortuzzo out versus the coaching staff wanting a physical presence in the lineup? The game is certainly transitioning to skill and speed, but coaches still like having that rugged stay-at-home defensemen in the lineup on most nights.

I think this is key. How much of the Schmaltz situation is driven by d-corp philosophy vs. an individual player battle.

I'm not as high on Schmaltz as others. I think his tendency to avoid checking by pushing to the middle of the ice is problematic. I think you can get away with that in the AHL, but he doesn't quite have the skating necessary to to get away with it as frequently in the NHL. By comparison, Dunn has shown much more of a willingness to eat a puck (and the craftiness to use aggressive forechecks to his advantage), and I don't think Schmaltz has the same level of lateral skating/stick-work/vision-IQ as Dunn. As a result, he's often a bit out of position.

I freely admit that comparing him to Dunn is probably unfair (although, hard not to do), and suspect that his lack of consistent NHL coaching is a driver of some of the above. But...Schmaltz is far enough behind Dunn that they haven't been willing to accept the risk in relation to the potential benefits Schmaltz brings. Inserting him in the line-up changes the dynamic of the 3rd pairing, and I don't think (up to this year) he's shown enough to force the Blues to move away from the stalwart style Gunnarson & Bortuzzo bring, nor do I think they're completely comfortable sheltering him with one of the two. And I think that's as much of a knock on Gunnarson/Bortuzzo as it is Schmaltz.

He's in a bad spot. NHL quality player in dire need of NHL experience & NHL coaching, but stuck on the cusp of a philosophical shift. If they cloned Edmundson, I have little doubt Schmaltz would be in the line-up most nights He brings exactly the type of insulation Schmaltz needs without the drawbacks of Gunnarson/Bortuzzo.

 

[EastonBlues22]

Tallied results for 33 ballots (1089 possible points), with tier breaks subjectively inserted at ~40+ point gaps. Ranking relative to poll series is in parentheses where applicable.

1 Thomas 1087 (E)
2 Kyrou 1053 (E)

3 Bokk 975 (+2)
4 Husso 970 (-1)
5 Kostin 964 (-1)

6 Blais 869 (+2)
7 Schmaltz 851 (-1)

8 Walman 804 (-1)
9 Mikkola 783 (E)
10 Foley 754 (E)
11 Perunovich 723 (+2)

12 Sanford 684 (E)
13 Fitzpatrick 667 (-2)

14 Stevens 617 (+1)

15 Toropchenko 548 (-1)
16 Reinke 540 (+1)

17 Musil 452 (+1)

18 Binnington 388 (-2)
19 Kaspick 376 (E)

20 Noel 299 (E)
21 McGing 253
22 Laferriere 237

23 Poganski 139
24 Hofer 103
25 Tucker 96
26 MacEachern 76
27 Bourque 67
28 Bleackley 33
29 Andersson 32
30 Opilka 28
31 Krag 27
32 Sergeyev 22
33 Helt 20

 

[KirkOut]

wow, essentially no differences between list variants. nobody more than 2 spots away is very surprising

 

[Ranksu]

Blues prospect poll result 2004 - 2018 (2005 poll doesn't exist) + ballot by @EastonBlues22 (2016-2018)

Rankings based off 20 ballots cast with total number of points received in parentheses and movement from final poll result:

2018 Final rankings (Total Points) - Relative Ranking vs Poll Series

1) Thomas 1087 (E)
2) Kyrou 1053 (E)

3) Bokk 975 (+2)
4) Husso 970 (-1)
5) Kostin 964 (-1)

6) Blais 869 (+2)
7) Schmaltz 851 (-1)

8) Walman 804 (-1)
9) Mikkola 783 (E)
10) Foley 754 (E)
11) Perunovich 723 (+2)

12) Sanford 684 (E)
13) Fitzpatrick 667 (-2)

14) Stevens 617 (+1)

15) Toropchenko 548 (-1)
16) Reinke 540 (+1)

17) Musil 452 (+1)

18) Binnington 388 (-2)
19) Kaspick 376 (E)

20) Noel 299 (E)
21) McGing 253
22) Laferriere 237

23) Poganski 139
24) Hofer 103
25) Tucker 96
26) MacEachern 76
27) Bourque 67
28) Bleackley 33
29) Andersson 32
30) Opilka 28
31) Krag 27
32) Sergeyev 22
33) Helt 20

Final rankings (Total Points) - Relative Ranking vs Poll Series - % Ballots Listed

1. Dunn (813) - Even - 100%
2. Barbashev (783) - Even - 100%
3. Walman (774) - Even - 100%
4. Kostin (735) - Even - 100%
5. Thomas (707) - +1 - 100%
6. Husso (704) - -1 - 100%
7. Kyrou (699) - +1 - 100%
8. Thompson (664) - -1 - 100%
9. Schmaltz (619) - Even - 100%
10. Sanford (601) - Even - 100%
11. Musil (517) - +2 - 96%
12. Sundqvist (500) - -1 - 92%
13. Mikkola (490) - +1 - 92%
14. Blais (480) - -2 - 92%
15. Toropchenko (460) - Even - 96%
16. Lindbohm (402) - +1 - 88%
17. Stevens (344) - -1 - 76%
18. Kaspick (306) - +1 - 76%
19. Fitzpatrick (263) - -1 - 68%
20. Poganski (218) - Even - 64%
21. Krag-Christensen (194) - +1 - 56%
22. Binnington (153) - -1 - 48%
23. Opilka (101) - +1 - 36%
24. Noel (90) - N/A - 36%
25. MacEachern (68) - -2 - 28%
26. Bourque (58) - N/A - 28%
27. Sergeev (55) - N/A - 28%
28. Bleackley (39) - N/A - 20%
29. Vannelli (37) - N/A - 24%
30. Helt (27) - N/A - 20%
31. Selman (12) - N/A - 12%
32. Andersson (11) - N/A - 16%
33. Tschantz (3) - N/A - 12%

2016 Final rankings (Total Points) - Relative Ranking vs Poll Series

1) Walman (470) - Up 2
2) Schmaltz (464) - Up 2
3) Husso (458) - Down 1
4) Dunn (456) - Down 3
5) Thompson (438) - Up 1
6) Kyrou (382) - Up 2
7) Barbashev (379) - Down 2
8) Rattie (375) - Down 1
9) Lindbohm (351) - Even
10) Binnington (253) - Even
11) Sergeev (244) - Up 3
12) MacEachern (242) - Down 1
13) Musil (228) - Up 7
14) Bleackley (207) - Down 1
15) Fitzpatrick (201) - Up 1
16) Vannelli (199) - Down 4
17) Poganski (190) - Up 1
18) Blais (180) - Down 3
19) Mikkola (174) - Even
20) Copley (161) - Down 3
21) Helt (82) - Even
22) Gawdin (62) - Up 1
23) Stevens (46) - Up 1
24) Opilka (44) - Down 2
25) Doty (35) - NR

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1) Robert Thomas (92.1%)
2) Jordan Kyrou (87.4%)
3) Ville Husso (56.4%)
4) Klim Kostin (52.0%)
5) Dominik Bokk (73.4%)
6) Jordan Schmaltz (36.8%)
7) Jake Walman (49.0%)
8) Samuel Blais (32.3%)
9) Niko Mikkola (48.0%)
10) Erik Foley (51.9%)
11) Evan Fitzpatrick (36.4%)
12) Zach Sanford (56.1%)
13) Scott Perunovich (33.3%)
14) Alexei Toropchenko (42.6%)
15) Nolan Stevens (62.9%)
16) Jordan Binnington (40.0%)
17) Mitch Reinke (54.0%)
18) Adam Musil (65.4%)
19) Tanner Kaspick (64.6%)
20) David Noel (46.%)

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2017 poll
#1-Vince Dunn (67%)
#2-Ivan Barbashev (46%)
#3-Jake Walman (79%)
#4-Klim Kostin (31%)
#5-Ville Husso (31%)
#6-Robert Thomas (39%)
#7-Tage Thompson (41%)
#8-Jordan Kyrou (62%)
#9-Jordan Schmaltz (86%)
#10-Zach Sanford (83%)
#11-Osskar Sundqvist (46%)
#12-Samuel Blais (27%)
#13-Adam Musil (31%)
#14-Niko Mikkola (54%)
#15-Alexei Toropchenko (65%)
#16-Nolan Stevens (41%)
#17-Petteri Lindbohm (48%)
#18-Evan Fitzpatrick (41%)
#19-Tanner Kaspick (76%)
#20-Austin Poganski (38%)
#21-Jordan Binnington (52%)
#22-Nikolaj Krag-Christensen (55%)
#23-Mackenzie MacEachern (35%)

2016 poll

1) Vince Dunn (Tie 32.88% - Head-to-head tiebreaker 58%)
2) Ville Husso (Tie 32.88% - Head-to-head tiebreaker 42%)
3) Jake Walman (40.68%)
4) Jordan Schmaltz (56.92%)
5) Ivan Barbashev (55.36%)
6) Tage Thompson (60.00%)
7) Ty Rattie (57.14%)
8) Jordan Kyrou (70.00%)
9) Petteri Lindbohm (56.10%)
10) Jordan Binnington (31.71%)
11) Mackenzie MacEachern (31.82%)
12) Tommy Vannelli (22.50%)
13) Conner Bleackley (26.32%)
14) Dmitri Sergeev (34.15%)
15) Samuel Blais (30.95%)
16) Evan Fitzpatrick (35.90%)
17) Pheonix Copley (33.33%)
18) Austin Poganski (30.77%)
19) Niko Mikkola (34.62%)
20) Adam Musil (38.71%)
21) Filip Helt (38.10%)
22) Luke Opilka (53.33%)
23) Glen Gawdin (35%.00)
24) Nolan Stevens (35.00%)
25) Nikolaj Krag Christensen 52.38%

2015 poll

1. Fabbri 96.77%
2. Barbashev 47.22%
3. Parayko 47.30%
4. Schmaltz 65%
5. Lindbohm 41.82%
6. Binnington 34.67%
7. Rattie 68%
8. Dunn 51.79%
9. Walman 19.35%
10. Husso 37.25%
11. Edmundson 45.83%
12. Copley 40.63%
13. Vannelli 78.13%
14. MacEachern 70.00%
15. Abeltshauser 55.56%
16. Blais 23.68%
17. Sergeev 33.33%
18. Poganski 25.64%

2014 poll

1) Allen 53%
2) Fabbri 45%
3) Jaskin 39%
4) Rattie 61%
5) Barbashev 86%
6) Schmaltz 79%
7) Parayko 33%
8) Lindbohm 40%
9) Binnington 48%
10) Vannelli 66%
11) Letunov 27%
12) Husso 38%
13) Edmundson 45%
14) Hakanpaa 62%
15) Walman 55%
16) Shields 23%
17) Lundstrom 25%
18) MacEachern 39%
19) Descheneau 30%
20) Poganski 33%

2013 poll

1) Tarasenko
2) Schwartz
3) Rattie
4) Allen
5) Jaskin
6) Carrier
7) Makanpää
8) Schmaltz
9) Edmundson
10) Binnington
11) Vannelli
12) Kurker
13) Veilleux
14) Lundström
15) Fairchild
16) Parayko
17) Lindbohm
18) MacEchern
19) Tesink
20) Andronov

2012 poll

1) Tarasenko 92%
2) Schwartz 93%
3) Rattie 57%
4) Cole 76%
5) Allen 73%
6) Schmaltz 38%
7) Hakanpää 64%
8) Fairchild 62%
9) McRae 58%
10) Sandström 31%
11) Grachev 38%
12) Kurker 30%(tie)
12) Lehterä 30%(tie)
14) Edmundson 52%
15) Jaskin 41%
16) Ponich 42%
17) Veilleux 48%
18) MacEachern 35%
19) Tesink 45%
20) Eronen 50%
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22) Parayko 40%
23) Binnington 60%

2011 poll

1) Tarasenko
2) Schwartz
3) Cole
4) Allen
5) Rattie
6) Grachev
7) Jaskin
8) McRae
9) Bishop
10) (tie) Cundari
10) (tie) Ponich
12) Edmundson
13) Lehtera
14) Wannstrom
15) Fairchild            
16) Della Rovere        
17) Junland            
18) Reaves            
19) Beukeboom            
20) Hakanpää            
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23) Jordan Binnington
26) Tyler Shattock

2010 poll

1) Pietrangelo
2) Tarasenko
3) Cole
4) Schwartz
5) Allen
6) McRae
7) Lehterä
8) Junland
9) Sonne
10) Ponich
11) Cundari
12) Wannström
13) Bishop

2009 poll

1) Pietrangelo
2) P.Berglund
3) Oshie
4) Eller
5) Cole
6) Palushaj
7) Allen
8) Sonne
9) McRae
10) Bishop
11) Junland
12) Hjalmarsson
13) K.Berglund
14) Fairchild

2008 poll


1) Pietrangelo
2) P.Berglund
3) Oshie
4) Perron
5) Eller
6) Cole
7) Lemtyugov
8) Bishop
9) Junland
10) Palushaj
11) McRae
12) Allen
13) M. Schwarz
14) Polak
15) Wagner
16) Hjalmarsson
17) Porter
18) Drazenovic
19) K. Berglund
20) Lehterä

2007 poll

1) Johnson
2) Oshie
3) Berglund
4) Backes
5) Toivonen
6) Eller
7) M. Schwartz
8) Polak
9) Perron
10) Cole
11) Bishop
12) Junland
13) Birner
14) Kana
15) Barriball
16) Hjalmarsson
17) Berra
18) Palushaj
19) Hellström
20) Drazenovic

2006 poll


1) Johnson
2) Oshie
3) M. Schwartz
4) Backes
5) Wenneberg
6) Berglund
7) Stempniak
8) Bacashihua
9) Shishkanov
10) Shkotov
11) Polak
12) Kana
13) Aaltonen
14) Lemtyugov
15) Jackson
16) Barulin
17) Birner
18) Junland

2004 poll


1. Sejna
2. Zakharov
3. McClement
4. Belle
5. Shkotov
6. Byrne
7. Barulin
8. Backes
9. Pohl

edit. 2018 poll + ballot ranking