You're putting words in my keyboard. I never said he'd go to the Browns over the Vikings, I said the Browns should go after him and take Barkley #1. I did say he's better off in Cleveland than the Jets because the Jets have not improved the team while, the Browns, at least in theory, would have a better chance than the Jets to be competitive with Cousins and all their draft picks (plus the division will be crap). Browns have a decent core of young players as well with their prior picks and recent signings. Tyrod Taylor will have much better targets than McCown. Meanwhile the Jets finally have a decent TE and a ton of cap space but at least for now are unwilling to spend any of it on him.
2017 Football Thread III: End of an Eli
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Trading OBJ while drafting a QB at #2 is beyond stupid. It might make you feel better about the character of your team but he is an irreplaceable talent and the Giants will be worse for it for the next 5+ years. That said, the Giants offense over the past 2 years stunk even with him but was much much worse without him.
Roo Returns
Skjeikspeare No More
I'd trade him ONLY if it was like Herschel Walker/Glen Wesley level five first round picks. Still, it's going to be interesting to see how Gettleman/Shurmur deal with his potential shenanigans.
Hunter Gathers
The Crown
Two 1st round picks (2018 and 2019), a 2018 2nd round pick, and a 2019 2nd round pick. That is the bare minimum I would want for him.
silverfish
got perma'd
Is there any comparable to trading a guy like OBJ? Because Landry just went for squat, obviously the value for OBJ should be higher than Landry, but what you're requesting is significantly higher.
And I'm not saying that you're wrong, I'd want a ransom for OBJ, too, if the Giants are stupid enough to trade him. I'm just curious what would realistically be the return.
Hunter Gathers
The Crown
Because OBJ is an exponentially better talent. The gap between OBJ and Landry is about the width of the country from NY to California.
Landry is a decent WR. A really nice complimentary piece or a low-end top guy (he's basically ONLY a slot player). OBJ is a generational talent. Landry has played 17 more games than OBJ yet OBJ has 16 more TDs and 400 more yards.
It's just astounding how good OBJ is. His level of play is legitimately mindblowing.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
I have no dog in this hunt, but when was the last time any player other than a fresh out of college franchise QB returned a haul like that?
Hunter Gathers
The Crown
When was the last time an actual generational talent was traded in the NFL? Those guys don't get moved. They either hit the market as free agents or stay where they are at.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
I dunno. I see why that's what you would want, but if he were to hit the market, I just don't see teams ponying up for him like that...
Hunter Gathers
The Crown
Then the Giants don't trade him. Mara has repeatedly said he wants to sign OBJ and wants him on the team for his whole career.
2Leetch_94
Kreid Me A River
One Winged Angel
You Can't Escape
Mathieu isn't happening with Collins needing a raise next year and limited cap space right now.
I would love Mathieu in Bettcher's defense though. He's so versatile and athletic.
I would love Mathieu in Bettcher's defense though. He's so versatile and athletic.
Hunter Gathers
The Crown
Hunter Gathers
The Crown
Hunter Gathers
The Crown
If they get the same QB play as last year, or close to it, they could be.
Hunter Gathers
The Crown
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Hunter Gathers
The Crown
Nope! You are our favorite, though.
