Prospect Info: 2017 Draft Part II

[ChadS]

I plan on doing another one of those "who would you have drafted" threads afterwards, it's much easier at that point for me to say the 1 guy I would have taken at our draft slot. After seeing how everything falls before our pick.

That's the best way, makes things easier and you get realistic selections knowing how the draft actually went, especially if we include more than the 1st rounds. It's cool to go back and see who we all picked, here's last year's thread:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2097183

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Pettersson for LW/C or Liljegren for D.

 

[Frk It]

That's the best way, makes things easier and you get realistic selections knowing how the draft actually went, especially if we include more than the 1st rounds. It's cool to go back and see who we all picked, here's last year's thread:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2097183

I plan on doing it every year so we have an archive

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Makar

Glass

Liljgren (sp)











Pattycake

 

[Marky9er]

Pettersson for LW/C or Liljegren for D.

2 very likely outcomes. I see them equally in terms of high potential and bust risk.

My darkhorse (alternative) picks if I may are Suzuki and Valimaki.

 

[DRW204]

So who do you want the Wings to draft at #9?

Lock in your pick.

Pettersson if available, if not Liljegren.

However i see ARZ picking Pettersson or Necas.

How's that for a wishy-washy answer lol

 

[theD86]

trade up and take Heskanen.

Trade up and take Makar

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

2 very likely outcomes. I see them equally in terms of high potential and bust risk.

My darkhorse (alternative) picks if I may are Suzuki and Valimaki.

I would be totally thrilled with either Suzuki or Valimaki. Valimaki's ceiling might be even higher then Liljegrens you just never know in these weak drafts.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

trade up and take Heskanen.

Trade up and take Makar

Heiskanen more or likely goes to #3 with Dallas.

Makar to either Arizona or Buffalo for the #7 or #8 pick more then likely.

Probably easier to trade up for Makar at either #7 or #8 then for Heiskanen at #3.

 

[silkyjohnson50]

Makar

Glass

Liljgren (sp)











Pattycake

Lol. If we draft him and he becomes a player, are you going to give him a fair shot or be one of those guys who's going to constantly point out every turnover and blown assignment?

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Lol. If we draft him and he becomes a player, are you going to give him a fair shot or be one of those guys who's going to constantly point out every turnover and blown assignment?

If he is a better more impactful nhl player for longer than those other three I will say I was wrong without a doubt

Will you do the same if he isn't I wonder though?

 

[silkyjohnson50]

If he is a better more impactful nhl player for longer than those other three I will say I was wrong without a doubt

Will you do the same if he isn't I wonder though?

Lol alright. You better still be posting 10 years from now.

As far as will I? No. But that's just because I haven't really claimed one way or the other. His weight definitely scares me as well, but if he's one of the more skilled players in the draft I absolutely understand the reasoning for taking him and trying to hit a home run - especially in this draft. The truth is that I don't follow prospects nearly enough to have a strong opinion one way or the other. I can definitely know what type of player and/or position I'd like them to take and then make an educated guess based on scouting reports of players, but whether they were to take Glass, Pettersson, Makar, Lilegren, etc wouldn't make me overly happy or mad either way. The only thing I ask for this pick (assuming we pick at 9) is to take a higher ceiling player over an Abdelkader. With the state of the organization I'd rather bust on a high ceiling player than to get a dime a dozen 3rd liner.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Lol alright. You better still be posting 10 years from now.

As far as will I? No. But that's just because I haven't really claimed one way or the other. His weight definitely scares me as well, but if he's one of the more skilled players in the draft I absolutely understand the reasoning for taking him and trying to hit a home run - especially in this draft. The truth is that I don't follow prospects nearly enough to have a strong opinion one way or the other. I can definitely know what type of player and/or position I'd like them to take and then make an educated guess based on scouting reports of players, but whether they were to take Glass, Pettersson, Makar, Lilegren, etc wouldn't make me overly happy or mad either way. The only thing I ask for this pick (assuming we pick at 9) is to take a higher ceiling player over an Abdelkader. With the state of the organization I'd rather bust on a high ceiling player than to get a dime a dozen 3rd liner.

Fair enough

I respect that

 

[RedMenace]

So who do you want the Wings to draft at #9?

Lock in your pick.

Callan Foote

 

[ChadS]

Combine measurements are happening today. You can find some of them reported by @scottcwheeler on Twitter: https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler

Here's some of them so far:
Jokiharju 6'1/188
Heiskanen 6'2/172
Heponiemi 6'0/149
Tolvanen 5'11.25/189.5

EDIT: These may not be correct, see here:
[Tweet]870998819965722624[/MEDIA]

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Combine measurements are happening today. You can find some of them reported by @scottcwheeler on Twitter: https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler

Here's some of them so far:
Jokiharju 6'1/188
Heiskanen 6'2/172
Heponiemi 6'0/149
Tolvanen 5'11.25/189.5

I watched a good deal of Portland this year and never would have guessed Jokiharju was over six feet.

 

[ChadS]

I watched a good deal of Portland this year and never would have guessed Jokiharju was over six feet.

At the end of the day it's really all about how they look on the ice. Players have different postures/skating stances, so two guys 2 inches apart might actually look very similar on the ice.

 

[Frk It]

I watched a good deal of Portland this year and never would have guessed Jokiharju was over six feet.

Apparently he grew during the season.



Mods- could you transfer some of these posts to the new thread? This ones about to hit 1K

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

So who does Detroit draft with their #9 pick for Centers Pettersson/Necas for D possibly Lilgegren if he's still on the board just slightly less then 3 weeks away things should get interesting here shortly.

 

[Tatar]

Surprises so far:

Casey Mittelstadt listed at 5'11.5, almost two inches shorter than expected

Miro Heiskanen about two inches taller at 6'2

Calle Makar is damn near 190lbs at 5'11.25

edit: to throw some comparisons for Makar; Krug is 5'9-185, Ellis is 5'10-181, Ghost is 5'11-181 & Karlsson is 6'0-192

edit 2: Mittelstadt only managed one bench press and no pull ups. This combine is not helping his stock

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

edit 2: Mittelstadt only managed one bench press and no pull ups. This combine is not helping his stock

But on the other hand: what kind of player do you have when Mittelstadt is actually in shape? I mean, he's already really good as he is. If you think he doesn't have attitude problems, it's got to be an intriguing gamble.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Surprises so far:

Casey Mittelstadt listed at 5'11.5, almost two inches shorter than expected

Miro Heiskanen about two inches taller at 6'2

Calle Makar is damn near 190lbs at 5'11.25

edit: to throw some comparisons for Makar; Krug is 5'9-185, Ellis is 5'10-181, Ghost is 5'11-181 & Karlsson is 6'0-192

edit 2: Mittelstadt only managed one bench press and no pull ups. This combine is not helping his stock

What's the weigh at for bench?

No pull ups is ugly

 

[lidstromiscool]

What's the weigh at for bench?

No pull ups is ugly

150lb's for the bench

 

[Frk It]

150lb's for the bench

Nope it's a % of their body weight.

 

[lidstromiscool]

Nope it's a % of their body weight.

Interesting, I read it was 150 in the MIttlestad or Petterson thread so one of those guys was benching 150