OT: 2017 American Football Thread

[Devils Dominion]

Ugh, Allen. I'll be pissed if we draft him. Inaccuracy doesn't magically go away in the NFL.

Like I've been saying for months, I see Allen having the highest upside of the QBs.

Barkley is definitely going top 3 so the Jets will be able to choose a good QB at 6.

I've said that the Giants will draft Barkley 2nd overall
I'm confident that it will happen even if most of you guys here have said no for weeks.

Darnold is over rated.

 

[Better Call Sal]

I think after his combine and after trading for Tyrod, the Browns are taking Barkley one and whatever QB they choose at 4.

As for Allen, he passes the eye test and has the measurables but my fear is always when accuracy is brought up and guys are showing inaccuracy in college. Those windows will get smaller and smaller in the NFL. Maybe he can become more precise, but I have to imagine it will be hard.

I'm hoping the Jets find a way to move up if possible, but it looks like the Bills will likely jump us.

 

[NJDevs26]

Honestly though none of these QB’s are sure things anyway. Plenty of Big 12 QB’s have busted, same with USC QB’s. I do like Mayfield and think he’d thrive rather than get swallowed up in NY but don’t think he gets to us unless the Bills go for Allen.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Per Schefter, Cousins to sign a 3 year fully guaranteed contract with Minnesota on Thursday.

He should send the Jets a fine bottle of wine for their help in giving him leverage to get a bigger deal from Minny.

****If in fact this is true

 

[Devils Dominion]

Honestly though none of these QB’s are sure things anyway. Plenty of Big 12 QB’s have busted, same with USC QB’s. I do like Mayfield and think he’d thrive rather than get swallowed up in NY but don’t think he gets to us unless the Bills go for Allen.

Mayfield is way too risky

 

[tr83]

As for Allen, he passes the eye test and has the measurables but my fear is always when accuracy is brought up and guys are showing inaccuracy in college. Those windows will get smaller and smaller in the NFL. Maybe he can become more precise, but I have to imagine it will be hard.

Ugh, Allen. I'll be pissed if we draft him. Inaccuracy doesn't magically go away in the NFL.

Damn right. Inaccuracy just doesn't magically improve in the pros.

As much as people bagged on Chad Pennington for having a popgun arm, his accuracy was impeccable.

I'm fine with McCown as the starter this year, if they resign him. Maybe Bridgewater if he's healthy (which is funny because people were screaming to reach for Teddy a couple of years ago. We got Calvin Pryor, remember that? :

The Jets are not going anywhere with the sieve that was their defense last year. Trade down, take a bunch of lineman and LBs. They may have one of the worst O-lines in football and their LBs are not that good.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Damn right. Inaccuracy just doesn't magically improve in the pros.

As much as people bagged on Chad Pennington for having a popgun arm, his accuracy was impeccable.

I'm fine with McCown as the starter this year, if they resign him. Maybe Bridgewater if he's healthy (which is funny because people were screaming to reach for Teddy a couple of years ago. We got Calvin Pryor, remember that? :

The Jets are not going anywhere with the sieve that was their defense last year. Trade down, take a bunch of lineman and LBs. They may have one of the worst O-lines in football and their LBs are not that good.

That QB duo will lead to an even worse season than last.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Josh Allen is Kyle Boller

 

[tr83]

Josh Allen is Kyle Boller

Maybe Brian Billick can get back into coaching

That QB duo will lead to an even worse season than last.

Bryce Petty is trash. Christian Hackenberg is persona non grata. Sanchez is better than both of them. Almost any QB they bring in will be an upgrade, at least at the backup QB spot.

McCown was not that bad last year considering the O-line was a dumpster fire

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Jets are apparently signing Teddy Bridgewater

 

[Better Call Sal]

I'm ready for Teddy!

 

[NJDevs26]

I’m not really excited about him either, he makes Pennington look durable and he’s been more hype than production when he has played, but I’ll take him if you’re pairing him with another viable QB (vet or rookie who can sit for a while).

 

[NJDevs26]

Aaand the Jets re-sign McCown too lol, so either the Bridgwater talks fell apart or they're really trying to take QB off the table with their draft pick.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Teddy is brittle

 

[blood gin]

Weird Giants signing with Stewart. Ok I get the Gettleman connection but he's 31 and looked pretty washed up last year.

 

[blood gin]

Jets got Crowell which is a good signing. Actually he would've been perfect for the Giants. Would've been a good signing for the Patriots too. Fast little bowling ball type player who excelled despite a poor supporting cast.

 

[vtdevils2k]

"CB Trumaine Johnson intends to sign with the NY Jets, per source."

HUGE signing for the Jets!

 

[blood gin]

Jets are making every move the Giants should be making

 

[blood gin]

If they get Minkah Fitzpatrick or Denzel Ward. Trumaine Johnson on the other end then Adams and Maye. That could shape up to be a top 10 secondary that's also versatile.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Weird Giants signing with Stewart. Ok I get the Gettleman connection but he's 31 and looked pretty washed up last year.

Bad move

 

[Better Call Sal]

The McCown/Bridgewater stopgap for a year is totally fine so long as we draft a QB still.

Boy, what a complete failure Hackenberg was. You have to be some kind of awful to not even get a chance to see the field as a second round pick. And yet every Jet fan in the world saw that one coming before Macc did.

 

[blood gin]

The McCown/Bridgewater stopgap for a year is totally fine so long as we draft a QB still.

Boy, what a complete failure Hackenberg was. You have to be some kind of awful to not even get a chance to see the field as a second round pick. And yet every Jet fan in the world saw that one coming before Macc did.

He wasn't a 2nd rounder though even though that's where he was selected. If they don't take him he probably goes 4th round.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Why would anyone pay Sam Bradford $20m?

Zona is dumb.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Wilkerson expected to sign with GB

 

[tr83]

Wilkerson expected to sign with GB

There's room now that Jordy Nelson is gone