2017-2018 CHL/NCAA/Euro Prospects Thread

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  1. ProspectsFanatic

    ProspectsFanatic Jonatan Berggren

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    I hope the scout who pushed to draft Casey Staum been fired by now.
     
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    76ftw Registered User

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    He's been re-assigned to reading this board for advice :D
     
  3. montreal

    montreal Go Habs Go

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    if the person that suggested they sign Alzner isn't fired, why would you fire a guy for making a mistake in the 5th round? I could see if it was like David Fischer, or Ben Maxwell, Crisp, Thrower, Collberg, etc.. but once you get 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th rounds I guess I don't mind the mistakes on the later rounds. Plus he was injured for most of the year. Although I don't know what they saw him in in the first place, I know he went to a well known hockey school in the Minnesota USHS but McDonagh had more points in one season then Staum had in his entire USHS career.
     
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    ProspectsFanatic Jonatan Berggren

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    Obviously you adjust your expectations for late rounders, you expect first rounder to be a decent NHLer, but I expect a 5th rounder to be a good USHL player at 20y old, and be good enough to play in the NCAA at 21y old. Thats way too far off the mark for a 5th rounder, for that reason I would question the competency of the scout who pushed to draft him.
     
  5. montreal

    montreal Go Habs Go

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    if not for the season ending injury maybe he plays in the NCAA next year. I know the coach that recruited him at UNO retired and usually impacts the incoming players as they often will change schools. Guess we'll see what he does next year.
     
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    He didn't only win the scholastic award in the Q. He also won it for the entire CHL.

     
  7. Goldenhands

    Goldenhands sell low buy high

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    this is how I would rank our top 10 prospects right now;

    1- Poehling
    2-Primeau
    3-Brook
    4-Juulsen
    5-Fleury
    6-Evans
    7-Ikonen
    8-Bitten
    9-Hawkey
    10-vejdemo
     
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    Should have been fired when the selection was made.

    Can't fire a guy over Alzner after 1 season. If the habs play better he'll look better and have more of a positive impact on the game.

    A bunch of players sucked this year.
     
  9. L4br3cqu3

    L4br3cqu3 U mad ?

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    Nothing educated about what I'll say, but I have a great feeling about that kid, don't know why, I think his game will translate very well to the pros, got a 'Pascal Dupuis' vibe about him.

    Then again, I had a great feeling about Jonathan Ferland back in the days... oh well, let's hope for the best ! :laugh:
     
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    Its a fifth rounder.

    They took a chance on a guy with great skating and hoped some other areas of his game would develop. They didnt. Meh....

    If you are gonna fire a scout over a failed fifth rounder you wont have many scouts left.

    Im fine with a philosophy that takes a guy in the late rounds who has one great.attribute and some.warts. better than taking a guy who.is just average at everything.
     
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    jaffy27 From Russia wth Pain

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    Hopefully in 1 month, it’ll be.....

    Zadina
    Kotkaniemi
    Poehling
    Kravtsov
    Primeau
    Brook
    Kaut
    Juulsen
    Fleury
    McIsaac
    Evans
    Ikonen

    :nod:
     
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    Hope you are just having fun, because Kotkaniemi is likely a top 10 pick so it is close to impossible to end up with both him and Zadina. The more realistic scenario is Kotkaniemi OR Zadina AND Kravtsov if we acquire another first from the MaxPac trade. Then again they might decide to go after an LD like Miller with the extra first.
     
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    jaffy27 From Russia wth Pain

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    Ya, just having fun lol
     
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    That would be nice...
     
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    Habs Icing Formerly Onice

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    "Prospect Alexandre Alain was one of several youngsters recognized for their efforts on the ice and in the classroom on Tuesday."

    I don't know but aren't the third and fifth players from the left a little over the hill? Or is one of them Galipeau? :sarcasm:


    The joke would have worked a lot better if Guy wasn't photo bombing.
     
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    I'd still consider McNiven and Lindgren prospects and I'd have them on here. The top 5 has some promise but not mouth wateringly so. Hopefully we can do something about that this draft.
     
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    It’s not always a bad idea to gamble on unknown prospects in later rounds

    A good example is Jake Evans
     
  19. Adam Michaels

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    Three 7th round picks I feel can end up proving they should have gone sooner are Evans, Addison, and Primeau.
     
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    Goldenhands sell low buy high

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    Whats the deadline to sign Fleury?
     
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    Casey staum

    It’s a proof that you don’t just draft based on skating

    You need skills that’s why we shouldn’t underrate zAdina
     
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  23. Adam Michaels

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    Poehling and Primeau are part of the Summer Showcase roster.

    [​IMG]
     
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    montreal Go Habs Go

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    figured it but still nice to see Primeau get the nod as he's got to be the leader at this point to be the starter for Team USA although it's going to be very interesting to see what kind of season he has now that he doesn't have the best line in the NCAA out there putting up all those points.
     
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    I dont see the relationship between a fifth rounder and the third pick overall in the draft.

    Apples to oranges.
     

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