2017-2018 CHL/NCAA/Euro Prospects Thread

[montreal]

CHL

OHL-

Will Bitten - Hamilton Bulldogs
http://habsprospects.com/bitten.html

Victor Mete - London Knights
http://habsprospects.com/mete.html

Michael Pezzetta - Sudbury Wolves
http://habsprospects.com/pezzetta.html



WHL-

Josh Brook - Moose Jaw Warriors
http://habsprospects.com/brook.html

Cale Fleury - Kootenay Ice
http://habsprospects.com/fleury.html

Jarret Tyszka - Seattle Thunderbirds
http://habsprospects.com/tyszka.html

Scott Walford - Victoria Royals
http://habsprospects.com/walford.html



NCAA

Big Ten -

Jake Evans - University of Notre Dame Fighting Irish
http://habsprospects.com/evans.html

Hockey East -

Hayden Hawkey - Providence College Friars
http://habsprospects.com/hawkey.html

Cayden Primeau - Northeastern University
http://habsprospects.com/primeau.html

NCHC -

Ryan Poehling - St. Cloud State University
http://habsprospects.com/poehling.html


WCHA -

Nikolas Koberstein - University of Alaska Fairbanks Nanooks
http://habsprospects.com/koberstein.html

USHL

Casey Staum - Dubuque Fighting Saints
http://habsprospects.com/staum.html



Euro Leagues

Finland -

Joni Ikonen - KalPa Kuopio
http://habsprospects.com/ikonen.html

Joonas Nättinen - JYP Jyvaskyla
http://habsprospects.com/nattinen.html

Sweden -

Max Friberg - Frölunda
http://habsprospects.com/friberg.html

Arvid Henrikson - Örebro
http://habsprospects.com/henrikson.html

Lukas Vejdemo - Djurgårdens IF
http://habsprospects.com/vejdemo.html

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[MarkovsKnee]

That's a lot of prospects in the NCAA. No Q prospects. Hopefully a few of those WHL D make it to pro

 

[Mike Mike Caron]

I love all of them dearly.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

Realistically how far from the NHL is Mete? Seems like he could be a real steal taken in n the 4th round.

 

[Tim Raines]

Realistically how far from the NHL is Mete? Seems like he could be a real steal taken in n the 4th round.

Normally I'd say he has a lot of strengthening to do as he'd get bumped off pretty easily in net-front battles at this age. But I also thought the same about Marner and he adapted pretty well based on smarts - and that's something Mete has in spades.

My biggest fear is our development system. Clearly we don't have a good track record for improving our prospects in the AHL. And I would think he needs at least a year in the A.

 

[Stive Morgan]

So weird not having anyone in the Q. Love all the prospects in the W though! I have plenty of Montreal property to watch over the next couple years.

 

[dcyhabs]

Normally I'd say he has a lot of strengthening to do as he'd get bumped off pretty easily in net-front battles at this age. But I also thought the same about Marner and he adapted pretty well based on smarts - and that's something Mete has in spades.

My biggest fear is our development system. Clearly we don't have a good track record for improving our prospects in the AHL. And I would think he needs at least a year in the A.

Maybe not as bad for D as for F. Tinordi and Bennet crashed but lots of varied prospects ended up becoming at least marginal NHLers, Dietz, Ellis, Hanley, Pateryn... I don't expect they'll try to get Mete to fight goons.

 

[montreal]

Just saw that Koberstein's coach has left the team to become head coach of the Calgary Hitmen. That's going to hurt as now they have to find a replacement in just a couple months and to a program that been in trouble financially and in talent.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Was curious about who our last draft pick to break 100 points in the CHL was. (Patrick Holland did it as a 20-year-old in 2011-12 but he wasn't our pick, we got him from Calgary)

Turns out it was Sergei Kostitsyn in 2006-07, scoring 131 points with Patrick Kane and the London Knights. Mathieu Aubin scored 103 in 2005-06 without any superstars on his team. Closest guys since then are Tim Bozon with 91 points, Gabriel Dumont with 93 points, Ryan White with 89 points, and Nikita Scherbak with 82 points.

So unless Bitten gets traded to Erie or London and has an insane year, I don't think we'll see it happen for a while lol

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Was curious about who our last draft pick to break 100 points in the CHL was. (Patrick Holland did it as a 20-year-old in 2011-12 but he wasn't our pick, we got him from Calgary)

Turns out it was Sergei Kostitsyn in 2006-07, scoring 131 points with Patrick Kane and the London Knights. Mathieu Aubin scored 103 in 2005-06 without any superstars on his team. Closest guys since then are Tim Bozon with 91 points, Gabriel Dumont with 93 points, Ryan White with 89 points, and Nikita Scherbak with 82 points.

So unless Bitten gets traded to Erie or London and has an insane year, I don't think we'll see it happen for a while lol

Bitten would need a major rebound year production wise to get anywhere close to that. Ironically, Bradley has a better chance of doing that now that he's in Regina but we don't have his rights anymore .

 

[Stive Morgan]

Bitten would need a major rebound year production wise to get anywhere close to that. Ironically, Bradley has a better chance of doing that now that he's in Regina but we don't have his rights anymore .

I'd be surprised if Bradley doesn't break 100 points.

As for Bitten... man, what a letdown he's been so far.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I'd be surprised if Bradley doesn't break 100 points.

As for Bitten... man, what a letdown he's been so far.

I wouldn't go THAT far on Bitten, he did end up tied for second on his team's point leaders total .I think he just adjusted to a different role on a different team and ended up being lost in the shuffle for a while. From everything I saw and heard he was playing quite good in the second half for Hamilton. 17-18 will be a huge year for him with a chance at a spot on team canada's roster and all, we'll see how he'll respond.

 

[Stive Morgan]

I wouldn't go THAT far on Bitten, he did end up tied for second on his team's point leaders total .I think he just adjusted to a different role on a different team and ended up being lost in the shuffle for a while. From everything I saw and heard he was playing quite good in the second half for Hamilton. 17-18 will be a huge year for him with a chance at a spot on team canada's roster and all, we'll see how he'll respond.

Yeah I mean I feel this is pretty much his make or break year. He should be adjusted to Hamilton by now and hopefully he'll be at least PPG.

 

[habsprospects]

Sounds like Staum is not going to UNO this season.

http://www.omavs.com/news/2017/7/11...unce-2017-18-freshman-class.aspx?path=mhockey

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Sounds like Staum is not going to UNO this season.

http://www.omavs.com/news/2017/7/11...unce-2017-18-freshman-class.aspx?path=mhockey

He's not on the USCHO site lineup for the school either . I'm guessing he'll either be spending a second year in Dubuque or transferring somewhere else. It's a bit of a setback in any case.

 

[montreal]

Sounds like Staum is not going to UNO this season.

odd that we didn't hear anything, but I'm not surprised as it's not uncommon for kids to de-commit or transfer when the head coach leaves. Since Dean Blais retired, I thought he might but that was back in March so figured something would have been announced. Who has his CHL rights? Not that I expect him to go that route.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

odd that we didn't hear anything, but I'm not surprised as it's not uncommon for kids to de-commit or transfer when the head coach leaves. Since Dean Blais retired, I thought he might but that was back in March so figured something would have been announced. Who has his CHL rights? Not that I expect him to go that route.

Nobody holds his CHL rights at the moment. He's a south Minnesota kid so he could always commit to a close to home college I guess, although Nebraska-Omaha isn't all that far.

 

[Whitesnake]

Don't hold your breath on Staum. He's our new Bennett.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Don't hold your breath on Staum. He's our new Bennett.

We'll see, Bennett actually had a better post draft year in the USHL than Straum just had so the early signs aren't super encouraging. The coming season will tell us where he's at, provided he can find a college to play for .

 

[montreal]

Don't hold your breath on Staum. He's our new Bennett.

I don't know anything about Staum but his USHL stats aren't as good as Bennett's, he was picked lower in the draft then Bennett and his was recruited to a much lesser program so while there's no telling what Staum will become and imo Bennett was poorly handled by Lefevbre and the rest of the AHL coaching staff at this point Bennett would clearly be the better prospect if you compare Staum now to Bennett at 17/18/19. Bennett's big problem was a lack of strength and physical game. In addition after a really good Sophomore year, he only progressed slightly in what should have been a breakout year though he had some injury problems and Michigan stunk that year and he lost his D partner of 2 years in Pateryn. And his Senior year he actually regressed, so chances are he just peaked but perhaps if he had been handled differently he could have at least been a solid AHLer for us. His confidence seemed ruined with the IceCaps, as his game was all about his great mobility/skating but in the AHL he's been a defensvie defensemen and defense was never his best asset.

 

[Adam Michaels]

We'll see, Bennett actually had a better post draft year in the USHL than Straum just had so the early signs aren't super encouraging. The coming season will tell us where he's at, provided he can find a college to play for .

He'll play in the NCAA for University of Nebraska-Omaha.

 

[montreal]

He'll play in the NCAA for University of Nebraska-Omaha.

looks like he's not attending UNO. There's been no word from the Habs but he's not listed on the schools roster for the upcoming season.

I haven't seen his name listed as a transfer yet either though, so that's strange cause if he's not going to UNO, he has to transfer unless he opted to delay it for another year, stay in the USHL and then play at UNO next year but we'll see if that's the case when his USHL team lists their roster for next season.

 

[Whitesnake]

I don't know anything about Staum but his USHL stats aren't as good as Bennett's, he was picked lower in the draft then Bennett and his was recruited to a much lesser program so while there's no telling what Staum will become and imo Bennett was poorly handled by Lefevbre and the rest of the AHL coaching staff at this point Bennett would clearly be the better prospect if you compare Staum now to Bennett at 17/18/19. Bennett's big problem was a lack of strength and physical game. In addition after a really good Sophomore year, he only progressed slightly in what should have been a breakout year though he had some injury problems and Michigan stunk that year and he lost his D partner of 2 years in Pateryn. And his Senior year he actually regressed, so chances are he just peaked but perhaps if he had been handled differently he could have at least been a solid AHLer for us. His confidence seemed ruined with the IceCaps, as his game was all about his great mobility/skating but in the AHL he's been a defensvie defensemen and defense was never his best asset.

My point was mostly about style of play. Staum was picked because he was a Mac Bennett. Great skater. With potential to develop or so they thought. But Staum, contrary to Bennett, was another one of those guys nobody say coming. And unfortunately for Timmins, every single one of those picks lately comes out as nothing. Every single one of his hidden gem stayed hidden. Staum will be one of those. Koberstein will most definately be another.

 

[Adam Michaels]

looks like he's not attending UNO. There's been no word from the Habs but he's not listed on the schools roster for the upcoming season.

I haven't seen his name listed as a transfer yet either though, so that's strange cause if he's not going to UNO, he has to transfer unless he opted to delay it for another year, stay in the USHL and then play at UNO next year but we'll see if that's the case when his USHL team lists their roster for next season.

Okay. I went by his Elite Prospects profile. They have UNO listed as his 2017-2018 team. We should find out in not too long I guess.

 

[montreal]

My point was mostly about style of play. Staum was picked because he was a Mac Bennett. Great skater. With potential to develop or so they thought. But Staum, contrary to Bennett, was another one of those guys nobody say coming. And unfortunately for Timmins, every single one of those picks lately comes out as nothing. Every single one of his hidden gem stayed hidden. Staum will be one of those. Koberstein will most definately be another.

How do you know what Staum will be? Granted as a 5th round pick, nobody should expect much from him. What's wrong with his game that says he will stay hidden?

As for Timmins late round picks, Evans, Hawkey, Addison, Reway, Hudon, he's got a few that certainly look like they could be NHLers.

Okay. I went by his Elite Prospects profile. They have UNO listed as his 2017-2018 team. We should find out in not too long I guess.

Everyone has him listed going to UNO but UNO, his coach stepped down at the end of the season and it's not uncommon for incoming Freshman to opt out of their commitment when that happens since it's usually a big part of why they chose that program. Just odd that there's been no word of it anywhere, just that he's not listed among the incoming Freshman on UNO's site.