Injury Report: 2017-18 thread: first of many

[Deuce22]

Which only means we will lose some players who may blossom elsewhere when given a chance to show what they can do. In today's salary capped NHL you have to get production from young cheap players to be a serious competitor. When you refuse to give them a chance to work up from lesser roles you will always have your GM dumpster diving, hoping to get lucky. RC cannot be gone soon enough.

So I guess the promised evolution of RC didn't happen. Shocking development.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

So I guess the promised evolution of RC didn't happen. Shocking development.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Hazy mentioned on the broadcast last night that RC doesn't care if the 4th line scores, he just wants them to "not be minus." I found that to be exactly what we observe, "safe" vets playing dump and chase. If so, explains why Terry won't play on the 4th.

That comment sums up RC well...he refuses to utilize his entire roster and develop any depth...that is a completely archaic view of the game

 

[bsu]

Can Fowler sack up like Sami and hampus did

 

[mightyquack]

Can Fowler sack up like Sami and hampus did

Yeah you're right dude, Fowler (a great teammate by all accounts) is totally choosing not to play because he doesn't want to 'sack up' and thus screwing over his team and his teammates (where he is one of the leaders).

Good observation, looking forward to the next one.

 

[Dryish]

It's honestly blatant idiocy to want players to return from injuries before they're healed at this point. Don't forget our entire season was in jeopardy because of Kesler's injury and his slow return from it, something that he still hasn't completed. The ideal for this team would be to try to win as well as they can right now but without taking any unnecessary risks like rushing hurt guys back so that we don't blow the perhaps more realistic window that we have next season if we're healthy and Kesler/Eaves will have properly recovered by then. Take the risks that you need to win games now, because it's the playoffs and we're in it to win it all obviously, but not more than that.

Rush Fowler back, and if he aggravates his injury and gets long-term shoulder damage or a surgery that keeps him in rehab for 3/4 of the season and then what?

 

[bsu]

Shoulder injuries are usually about pain thresholds and for the most part don't get worse

 

[Deuce22]

I don't want Fowler (or Gibson for that matter) rushing back before they are ready. Ducks did fine in playoffs last year without him and more Lindholm/Manson is never a bad thing.

 

[Duck Off]

Just to remind everyone Carlyle won a Stanley cup as the entire league was going soft with 3 heavyweights on the roster. It can be done
Ovechkin is playing and acceling with Tom Wilson on his line. Gaudreau plays with Fernando. I attribute Kase's success partly to Ritchie creating space and being there as somewhat protection. These are not heavyweights but shows for all the skill you still need tough players.

You fixate on this narrative too much. Carlyle deserves credit but he had, imo, the best roster in post cap era. Two great scoring lines, and an elite checking line. Never mind having 2 of the best 3 defenseman in the league. So yeah “it can be done” but you’re conveniently ignoring the things that really made that team great. I loved that team but if you think our team or even most teams can dress 3 pure enforcers and win; you’re being ignorant.

Also, those players you just mentioned are not pure enforcers. Fernando (I’m good with this being his new nickname) scored 20 goals this year. Wilson is also much better than a pure enforcer. Those are the type of players you want throughout your lineup so you don’t have to dress garbage like Boll. That’s why I’m praying Murray doesn’t get impatient and trade Ritchie. Even if he tops as a physical 3rd liner; there’s still a lot of value in those type of players.

 

[Janka]

I figure now is as good a time as any to actually start posting instead of just lurking

Just my 2 cents, as an athletic trainer that's been in the business for a while (including several years with hockey teams). In very simplified terms, the two biggest factors in determining return to play following an injury is, 1) can they worsen their current injury to the point of long-term/devastating effects, and 2) can they protect themselves. Just going off of mechanism and the timeline the Ducks posted, Fowler's injury definitely looks like an AC sprain. While he could "gut it out" and play without a whole lot of (relative) risk to the actual current injury, the biggest issue I've come across with hockey players and AC sprains is that they do not have the range of motion or strength to protect themselves out there from additional injuries (incidentally, they are not all that effective, at that point, either).

I obviously can't speak for the Ducks' athletic training staff, but that's just been my experience.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I figure now is as good a time as any to actually start posting instead of just lurking

Just my 2 cents, as an athletic trainer that's been in the business for a while (including several years with hockey teams). In very simplified terms, the two biggest factors in determining return to play following an injury is, 1) can they worsen their current injury to the point of long-term/devastating effects, and 2) can they protect themselves. Just going off of mechanism and the timeline the Ducks posted, Fowler's injury definitely looks like an AC sprain. While he could "gut it out" and play without a whole lot of (relative) risk to the actual current injury, the biggest issue I've come across with hockey players and AC sprains is that they do not have the range of motion or strength to protect themselves out there from additional injuries (incidentally, they are not all that effective, at that point, either).

I obviously can't speak for the Ducks' athletic training staff, but that's just been my experience.

Welcome to the boards!

Also, thanks for the info

 

[Kalv]

I read on twitter that Folwer was seen in a sling. Not that it is a surprise.

But hopefully he heals good and fast. I think it will still definitely bother him though :/

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I figure now is as good a time as any to actually start posting instead of just lurking

Just my 2 cents, as an athletic trainer that's been in the business for a while (including several years with hockey teams). In very simplified terms, the two biggest factors in determining return to play following an injury is, 1) can they worsen their current injury to the point of long-term/devastating effects, and 2) can they protect themselves. Just going off of mechanism and the timeline the Ducks posted, Fowler's injury definitely looks like an AC sprain. While he could "gut it out" and play without a whole lot of (relative) risk to the actual current injury, the biggest issue I've come across with hockey players and AC sprains is that they do not have the range of motion or strength to protect themselves out there from additional injuries (incidentally, they are not all that effective, at that point, either).

I obviously can't speak for the Ducks' athletic training staff, but that's just been my experience.

Now thats how you make an enterence...
Welcome to the boards

 

[navyduck]

Gibson expected to play for Ducks vs. Sharks

Ducks defenseman Kevin Bieksa, who has missed the past 12 games after having hand surgery to remove scar tissue on March 16, also practiced.
"He's making good progress," Carlyle said. "If he continues to show that his hand is healed, he'll be an option for us, for the first game."

Say it aint so....

 

[ohcomeonref]

Is anyome else following that 70 point players thread on the mainboard? Am I frickin crazy?

 

[duxfan1101]

Gibson expected to play for Ducks vs. Sharks

The vagueness of this team with injuries is impressive:

"It was good," Gibson said. "It was nice to be back. Feel good. I was fortunate. We needed some stuff to go well, go right and it did."

 

[Janka]

Now thats how you make an enterence...
Welcome to the boards

Thank you, my boyfriend thinks I'm a sick human being with how often I rewind/rewatch injuries. I figured maybe my over-analyses and speculations might be better appreciated here

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Thank you, my boyfriend thinks I'm a sick human being with how often I rewind/rewatch injuries. I figured maybe my over-analyses and speculations might be better appreciated here

I mean as long as your not bringing us bad news

 

[Kalv]

Thank you, my boyfriend thinks I'm a sick human being with how often I rewind/rewatch injuries. I figured maybe my over-analyses and speculations might be better appreciated here

Nah, we need you here as the Ducks are very silent about their injuries

 

[Opak]

Ducks' twitter:

And now, unfortunately, some bad news: Ryan Miller underwent surgery on his left wrist last Friday to remove a bone fragment. He is expected to be fully recovered in six weeks.

 

[ScarTroy]

So Kesler might sit out all next season? f*** that doesn’t sound good.

 

[duckaroosky]

I was going to say at least no one has gotten a tapeworm but I think a tapeworm would be preferable to some of the ailments these guys have, especially Kesler.

 

[Dryish]

Kesler potentially out for the entire season? Well, rumours are rumours so we'll have to wait and see. But if that happens? You can hear any resemblance of a window we had left slamming right shut. Jack Hughes here we come?

 

[Static]

We missed far more than Kesler last year and when he returned was a shell of himself. We still made the playoffs at a high seed.

Losing him is not a death knell. It sucks, but it's not the end of the world.

 

[pbgoalie]

Boy, it sure looked like he shouldn't be playing last year.
If he did more damage coming back to try and help......

If he's out for the year, or worse....is he insured?