Speculation: 2017-18 Sharks roster discussion II

[rangerssharks414]

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[hohosaregood]

All we need to do to run Vlasic and Burns out of the org is to scratch them one game.

 

[jarr92]

Here's a discussion point:

What you guys think the sharks top 6 looks 5 years from now?

I assume Thornton and Pavs will be gone, so what does that leave?
In their current form I think the top 6, barring any trades (which I'm sure will occur), would look something like this:

Meier - Couture - Labanc
Donskoi - Hertl - Gambrell

I personally believe that roster needs at least 2 top 6 players added to it. With that being said, what can be done to make that top 6 into a cup contender with their current assets?

 

[rangerssharks414]

Here's a discussion point:

What you guys think the sharks top 6 looks 5 years from now?

I assume Thornton and Pavs will be gone, so what does that leave?
In their current form I think the top 6, barring any trades (which I'm sure will occur), would look something like this:

Meier - Couture - Labanc
Donskoi - Hertl - Gambrell

I personally believe that roster needs at least 2 top 6 players added to it. With that being said, what can be done to make that top 6 into a cup contender with their current assets?

I would hope that someone else that was drafted early is there somewhere. Five years from now is a long time, though.

 

[hohosaregood]

Here's a discussion point:

What you guys think the sharks top 6 looks 5 years from now?

I assume Thornton and Pavs will be gone, so what does that leave?
In their current form I think the top 6, barring any trades (which I'm sure will occur), would look something like this:

Meier - Couture - Labanc
Donskoi - Hertl - Gambrell

I personally believe that roster needs at least 2 top 6 players added to it. With that being said, what can be done to make that top 6 into a cup contender with their current assets?

Nothing you can do with it. No elite scoring there. Only hope is for DW to luck his way into a trade seeing how drafting won't get you anything and DW and Burke are gonna die before they're fired.

 

[Juxtaposer]

It’s always fun to project rosters five years out and have like six of the players still be there by the time five years actually passes.

Trades will happen. Prospects will happen. FA signings will happen. It’s impossible to even come close.

 

[Vaasa]

I'd rather not keep Boedker. Infact he is the one player I would buyout at the end of this year if we cannot get any trade partner. This deal seems ideal even though we do give up the best player in the deal, we still get back 2 really good players back.

Plus I am really hoping that all that extra cap space makes DW go really hard for Tavares.

With Thornton ($8 mil), Ward ($3.25 mil), and Hansen ($2 mil) coming off the books they have more than enough to pay Tavares $10 mil per year (which is what it will likely take) and still have Wards full $3.25 mil left over which would cover guys like O'Regan, Sorenson, Goodrow, and Labanc as full time replacements. All that without moving Boedker. So I don't think moving Boedker is a requirement for going for Tavares. And if they manage to move Martin that another nearly $5 mil freed up for another 1-year deal for JT. Not to mention the $10 mil + in free cap space they already have.

 

[jarr92]

It’s always fun to project rosters five years out and have like six of the players still be there by the time five years actually passes.

Trades will happen. Prospects will happen. FA signings will happen. It’s impossible to even come close.

Thanks for the input captain obvious. God forbid some discussion is done on a discussion board

Is the future core really that outlandish to talk about? Or shall we discuss why Schlemko is better then (insert player) for the 1000th time?

 

[Juxtaposer]

Thanks for the input captain obvious. God forbid some discussion is done on a discussion board

Is the future core really that outlandish to talk about? Or shall we discuss why Schlemko is better then (insert player) for the 1000th time?

Interestingly, I never said it was wrong to discuss, nor did I say it was outlandish. But I do know that the only people still talking about Schlemko are his detractors.

 

[The Ice Hockey Dude]

Ok, in looking at teams that are out of it, e.g. the Habs. Which do you think a better fit in teal? Pacioretty (1 year left after this one at a cap hit of 4.5m), Gallagher (3 years at 3.75m per) or Galchenyuk (2 yrs at 4.9m).

I'm thinking Martin (1 more year at 4.25m) + hansen (ufa) +- cap to make it cap neutral for Pacioretty (or another from above)!

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

With Thornton ($8 mil), Ward ($3.25 mil), and Hansen ($2 mil) coming off the books they have more than enough to pay Tavares $10 mil per year (which is what it will likely take) and still have Wards full $3.25 mil left over which would cover guys like O'Regan, Sorenson, Goodrow, and Labanc as full time replacements. All that without moving Boedker. So I don't think moving Boedker is a requirement for going for Tavares. And if they manage to move Martin that another nearly $5 mil freed up for another 1-year deal for JT. Not to mention the $10 mil + in free cap space they already have.

We'll also have Vlasic and Jones' extensions kicking in. But we also have the money from Marleau's contract that we never spent and money from the cap probably going up that we never spent. I have no idea where we stand, cap wise, tbh.

I'd like to get Tavares among a bunch of other impact forwards we could probably get. I'm of the opinion that if they're not clearly rebuilding (and they sure as hell aren't with Burns/Vlasic/Jones' extensions), they might as well just try to win the Cup every year and maybe they'll get lucky. Hoffman, Pacioretty, Kane, Tavares; lot of guys available who could push us toward potentially being contenders.

Ok, in looking at teams that are out of it, e.g. the Habs. Which do you think a better fit in teal? Pacioretty (1 year left after this one at a cap hit of 4.5m), Gallagher (3 years at 3.75m per) or Galchenyuk (2 yrs at 4.9m).

I'm thinking Martin (1 more year at 4.25m) + hansen (ufa) +- cap to make it cap neutral for Pacioretty (or another from above)!

They wouldn't take that offer for Pacioretty in a million years.

 

[hohosaregood]

I like Gallagher the most from them tbh

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

The Isles would be morons if they did not match an offer of $10 mil for Tavares, and Tavares would be stupid to sign with SJ of all the teams that offered that much for him.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Tavares is probably looking closer to the 12-15 mil range on the open market.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

Tavares is probably looking closer to the 12-15 mil range on the open market.

Yes, and he may get that, but he will choose a team on the east coast, that doesn't have the harsh air travel distances.

 

[one2gamble]

at this point I would move vlasic in a package for a first line center....

 

[pappaf2]

at this point I would move vlasic in a package for a first line center....

I have been thinking about that as well. I don't think DW would do that though

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

at this point I would move vlasic in a package for a first line center....

In all honesty, I would be willing to give up Vlasic, Burns, and Jones for completely nothing, given their contracts.

 

[rangerssharks414]

at this point I would move vlasic in a package for a first line center....

I would as well. His contract will be awful in the middle of it, I think. Not that it wasn't already an overpayment...

 

[Gecklund]

Everyone bashing on Vlasic and Jones when the extensions haven’t even kicked in and Burns when he’s been fine this year.

 

[KirbyDots]

Chicago trades for Duclair.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Of course Chicago gets Duclair for nothing.

 

[rangerssharks414]

I thought Duclair would fetch more than that.

 

[The Nemesis]

I said this in the NHL news/notes thread, but this feels like what everyone else must've felt like with the Thornton trade. Like Arizona just went to the first team they talked to and took what was on the table instead of shopping around at all.

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

Too bad DW doesn't listen to me lol.