2017-18 roster talk: the positive perfect power of nine

[Striiker]

And Martel just scored a couple minutes ago. Lucky for him nobody was breathing in the area.

 

[whitstifier]

I prefer non-fiction.

I enjoy steamy romances. An old bard and his love of thick meat on ice

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

And Martel just scored a couple minutes ago. Lucky for him nobody was breathing in the area.

First the heavy breathing - next, the hugs.

 

[Striiker]

First the heavy breathing - next, the hugs.

So help me god, if he starts hugging people...

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I still wouldn’t be surprised if Martel catches on elsewhere & makes the NHL. He’ll need to go to a more progressive organization though.

 

[Magua]

The only thing about Martel is I'm not sure how well he processes the game in terms of NHL systems work, but that's something that you'd have to actually see in the NHL.

In the meantime, all the usage they give to an AHL veteran should go to Martel, if not this season then next. He could be a point/game player with PP time. But but but Conner and Varone and Carey!

 

[Curufinwe]

7 goals in 6 games now.

 

[Hurricane28]

MacDonald out 4-6 weeks. Lets see what the Flyers do

 

[Frickley]

I need a 6'7 behemoth in my life right now

EDIT: that sounded different in my head

 

[deadhead]

 

[Rebels57]

I want to see Jake and TK swap and Weise and Raffl swap.

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Weal - Filppula - Simmonds
Raffl - Patrick - Voracek
Leier - Laughton - Weise

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

I want to see Jake and TK swap and Weise and Raffl swap.

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Weal - Filppula - Simmonds
Raffl - Patrick - Voracek
Leier - Laughton - Weise

Looks vicious, which leads me to believe it ain't happening.
Drop Weise for Martel and you might just have fastest line in the league that could easilly stomp bottom pairings on the forecheck.

 

[eramosat]

I want to see Jake and TK swap and Weise and Raffl swap.

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Weal - Filppula - Simmonds
Raffl - Patrick - Voracek
Leier - Laughton - Weise

I was ready to blow by this post, like most others as I read through the boards.

A Jake and TK swap though seems to me like it might pay off more than the current line s..worth a try IF the Flyers are losing, and line 1 is not over-compensating for lines 2 and 3 like they have so far.

Weise and Raffl swap to me is not worth it. Try the other one first.

 

[deadhead]

And Martel just scored a couple minutes ago. Lucky for him nobody was breathing in the area.

I don't think 30% shooting is sustainable. Bit of a flukey start.

 

[deadhead]

Looks vicious, which leads me to believe it ain't happening.
Drop Weise for Martel and you might just have fastest line in the league that could easilly stomp bottom pairings on the forecheck.

I would put NAK on the 4th line over either Weise or Martel.
It is a checking line, after all.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I would put NAK on the 4th line over either Weise or Martel.
It is a checking line, after all.

Weren't you just talking about how physical Weise was the other day?

 

[whitstifier]

Convinced that deadhead is smantishead

 

[deadhead]

Weren't you just talking about how physical Weise was the other day?

Weise has been tried on the 4th line before, didn't work.
He's a 3rd line winger or a scratch.

 

[Striiker]

I don't think 30% shooting is sustainable. Bit of a flukey start.

Converting on chances or not doesn't really matter.

What matters is that he gets plenty of scoring chances, despite his size, so it really isn't much of an issue. If you're that small the only way you can make up for it is by being really fast, which is he. Guys like Akeson and Cousins weren't, which is why they couldn't translate their scoring from AHL to NHL.

I'm not even saying Martel will make the NHL, because don't think he will. I'm just saying I wouldn't dismiss him because of size.

 

[deadhead]

Two years ago he might have had a shot, but the Flyers are deep enough that other than uber talents (Frost, Rubtsov, ???), most forwards will start on the 4th line and work their way up to the top 9.

Martel didn't emerge until his overage junior season, and 20 of his 48 goals that year were on the PP, so there's some question how talented he really is, his first two AHL seasons were solid, but nothing special.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Weise has been tried on the 4th line before, didn't work.
He's a 3rd line winger or a scratch.

Wonder why?

The fact you think someone can be successful on a 3rd line and not the 4th line tells me all I need to know.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Martel didn't emerge until his overage junior season, and 20 of his 48 goals that year were on the PP, so there's some question how talented he really is, his first two AHL seasons were solid, but nothing special.

Yes he was only 8th in 5v5 goals and 5th in primary 5v5 points league wide that year.

His first 2 years in the AHL were "nothing special" because he...didn't play on the powerplay. He was one of the better 5v5 scorers in the league.

Talk about contradicting yourself.

 

[Striiker]

Two years ago he might have had a shot, but the Flyers are deep enough that other than uber talents (Frost, Rubtsov, ???), most forwards will start on the 4th line and work their way up to the top 9.

Martel didn't emerge until his overage junior season, and 20 of his 48 goals that year were on the PP, so there's some question how talented he really is, his first two AHL seasons were solid, but nothing special.

28 5v5 goals doesn't sound too shabby...

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Martel should get a call this season. To anyone that watched the phantoms at all, he's pretty much been the best forward for 2 seasons now. And he is not soft like akeson.

 

[deadhead]

He also was 20 years old in juniors, obviously while he didn't have a physical advantage, he had a lot more experience than the younger kids he went against.

He's so small he's going to be a liability in many ways (he makes Konency look full-sized), so he has to be an elite scorer at lower levels to have a chance in the NHL. And while he's been good, it's hard to claim he's been special. Odds are stacked against him, even with his speed.