2017-18 EFL Carabao Cup

[Deficient Mode]

Guess what?

Gundogan is injured again.

Brutal tackle

 

[hagelin1381]

Not sure why Cahill is starting over Rudiger.. Rudiger brings much more with his passing and they're pretty similar defensively. Cahill has been fine since he came back.. He's not very good on the ball though.. Better suited for a 4 in the back formation

 

[Savant]

Would Chelsea sell Cahill to Liverpool? I don't know if I am kidding or not.

 

[Jussi]

Next round:

Spurs v West Ham
Bristol City v Crystal Palace
Swansea v Man Utd
Arsenal v Norwich City
Chelsea v Everton
Man City v Wolves
Leicester v Leeds United
Bournemouth v Middlesbrough

Another brutal draw for Liverpool.

 

[Cassano]

Delicious.

 

[Virtanen18]

Lmao that was so bad.

 

[Adonis Creed]

40 millions down the toilet

 

[Live in the Now]

Another brutal draw for Liverpool.

Pretty good draw imo. Don't need to be playing these games with CL.

 

[Adonis Creed]

Pretty good draw imo. Don't need to be playing these games with CL.

Only trophy you can aim for was cARIBOU CUP...

FA Cup is too good for Pool lvl of defense and Gk

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Next round:

Spurs v West Ham
Bristol City v Crystal Palace
Swansea v Man Utd
Arsenal v Norwich City
Chelsea v Everton
Man City v Wolves
Leicester v Leeds United
Bournemouth v Middlesbroughl.

I think Spurs bow out here.

In 15 days time they play
Real Madrid (CL)
Liverpool
West Ham (Cup)
Man United
Real Madrid (CL)

I expect a squad of backups and third stringers against West Ham. Perhaps Ledley or Scottie Parker could suit up again.

 

[YNWA14]

I remember when people were making fun of Pogba for every mistake he made in his early days at United too.

 

[Savant]

Only trophy you can aim for was cARIBOU CUP...

FA Cup is too good for Pool lvl of defense and Gk

FA Cup is more or less the same competition. The same teams are involved. It all depends on who you draw.

 

[East Coast Bias]

I remember when people were making fun of Pogba for every mistake he made in his early days at United too.

It lasted the entire last season.

There were Spurs fans on here looking at goals totals to prove Alli was just as good if not better of a CM. Good times.

The Arsenal fanbase bitterness seems to have entirely focused on Liverpool, which is fun to watch as a neutral.

 

[YNWA14]

It lasted the entire last season.

There were Spurs fans on here looking at goals totals to prove Alli was just as good if not better of a CM. Good times.

The Arsenal fanbase bitterness seems to have entirely focused on Liverpool, which is fun to watch as a neutral.

All over a player they supposedly didn't rate or want anyway.

 

[Savant]

All over a player they supposedly didn't rate or want anyway.

And the whole getting in CL over them thing.

 

[bleedblue1223]

FA Cup is more or less the same competition. The same teams are involved. It all depends on who you draw.

The big teams generally don't care about the Carabao Cup and will play their rotational/youth players throughout. The FA Cup typically has more of the typical starting 11 playing.

 

[Savant]

The big teams generally don't care about the Carabao Cup and will play their rotational/youth players throughout. The FA Cup typically has more of the typical starting 11 playing.

Sure, but so will Liverpool. There is no reason they can't compete for FA Cup, in fact I think that was their best chance for silverware before the season started. So we will see.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Sure, but so will Liverpool. There is no reason they can't compete for FA Cup, in fact I think that was their best chance for silverware before the season started. So we will see.

I wasn't disagreeing with that, just that the competitions aren't the same.

More often than not, one of the big clubs will win each, but more often than not, a non-big club is involved in final. Most clubs have a reasonable chance at winning, I agree with that.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

There were Spurs fans on here looking at goals totals to prove Alli was just as good if not better of a CM. Good times.

One person who eventually was ridiculed even among his own.

I don't know why it is seen as such heresy to say that Liverpool overpaid for AOC for now. That's a massive price for a central midfielder when you can seemingly count the amount of above average performances he has had in that position with one hand. Most of the poor plays he made against Leicester didn't have much to do with him not being accustomed to the team IMO.

Of course, he still has plenty of time to prove me wrong.

 

[YNWA14]

One person who eventually was ridiculed even among his own.

I don't know why it is seen as such heresy to say that Liverpool overpaid for AOC for now. That's a massive price for a central midfielder when you can seemingly count the amount of above average performances he has had in that position with one hand. Most of the poor plays he made against Leicester didn't have much to do with him not being accustomed to the team IMO.

Of course, he still has plenty of time to prove me wrong.

Because you're basing this 'over-payment' on complete unknowns. It's a completely different system, I don't see anyone talking about how bright he looked in the early stages of the game, and he's only 24 with his best years coming in the future. Looking at the prices of players (especially English ones) nowadays it's definitely far too early to say that Liverpool 'overpaid'.

Ox showed good and bad against Leicester, but so did most of our team. It's clear that frustration was setting in after not scoring, and then giving up a goal against the run of play completely depleted the team. It happens.

You need to stop looking at Chambo's past performances with Arsenal and his usual positions (he almost never played CM there) and look more at his skillset and package as a player to see how he'll fit in at Liverpool. He's got engine, close control, likes to speed up the play, a good cross and pace which all suit one of Liverpool's 4 advanced mid/wide players very well.

 

[Live in the Now]

I don't know why it is seen as such heresy to say that Liverpool overpaid for AOC for now.

As of now he started one game. A league cup game against Leicester where he played in combination with the illustrious Jon Flanagan on his side of the pitch. While phenomenal Solanke and Ings were the strikers.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Because you're basing this 'over-payment' on complete unknowns. It's a completely different system, I don't see anyone talking about how bright he looked in the early stages of the game, and he's only 24 with his best years coming in the future. Looking at the prices of players (especially English ones) nowadays it's definitely far too early to say that Liverpool 'overpaid'.

Ox showed good and bad against Leicester, but so did most of our team. It's clear that frustration was setting in after not scoring, and then giving up a goal against the run of play completely depleted the team. It happens.

You need to stop looking at Chambo's past performances with Arsenal and his usual positions (he almost never played CM there) and look more at his skillset and package as a player to see how he'll fit in at Liverpool. He's got engine, close control, likes to speed up the play, a good cross and pace which all suit one of Liverpool's 4 advanced mid/wide players very well.

Fine. But if I see you ever giving any initial reaction to a transfer fee just like i did and many, many more do, I will be calling you out on it. I called it an overpayment way before the Leicester game.

 

[YNWA14]

Feel free. I've been a pretty big advocate of there not being a such thing as an 'overpayment'. These clubs have more than enough money to burn. I might call something a bad signing but even then I think I just more question the logic behind certain moves rather than calling it an outright bad signing until a player has ultimately failed.

 

[Savant]

Fine. But if I see you ever giving any initial reaction to a transfer fee just like i did and many, many more do, I will be calling you out on it. I called it an overpayment way before the Leicester game.

I'd argue it was market value, specifically because Chelsea set the market. Liverpool were under no obligation to match, but they obviously wanted the player so they did. AOC has been with LFC less than a month, and according to Klopp has been nursing an injury as well. Too early to write him off, despite what the blatant trolling on here suggests. All prices are too high now. AOC has not been giving the chance to show his best yet. As bad as his second half was, he was one of their best players in the first half; which people are choosing to ignore.

 

[Chimaera]

I mean, they are saving on wages compared with what Chelsea and Arsenal would have paid.