They should try getting a competent manger that can make decisions based on analytical data before rebuilding. Old school "gut feeling" managers are the worst.
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They should try getting a competent manger that can make decisions based on analytical data before rebuilding. Old school "gut feeling" managers are the worst.
HamiltonNHL
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Panicking isn't in my nature but.
This is what I see...
And, yes, it is time.
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This is what I see...
And, yes, it is time.
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Leafsdude7
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You're correct. The HR and even SLG are actually not that much different between the two teams. Must have misread the stats box before I posted that.
Bad News Benning
Fallin for Dahlin?
Schultz and Tepera are like the Andrew Ebbetts of baseball.
Sucks we have no young pitchers we could call up for September and have to rely on recycled garbage to throw innings.
Sucks we have no young pitchers we could call up for September and have to rely on recycled garbage to throw innings.
Which is hilarious because most of the decisions Gibbons makes are pretty solidly backed up by analytics.
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Leafsdude7
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Pitching has been fine, outside of Dickey. The offense has let this team down.
PG Canuck
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Happ Stroman Sanchez Estrada are fine it's just about, just about, everyone else.
Loosie
The Eternal Optimist
The team was slow to get going in April and in a slump now, but otherwise has been fine. There will be tweaking of course, but a full out rebuild? I don't think so.
Of course that being said it may end up being a forced rebuild anyways with EE, JB and Saunders being free agents. We still have Martin, Tulo and Travis seems to be doing well too.
HamiltonNHL
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No, it's just an amazing coincidence you only show up when the team is losing and scream that everything is over. Sort of like shaner89.
Leafsdude7
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And don't forget Donaldson.
We still have guys like Pompey that can be put onto the roster to compliment the vets and hopefully take a lead role when they leave/retire without having to tear the whole thing down and fill up holes with youngsters for future success. We might need a bit of a "retool", but that's about it.
This isn't the Leafs with Kessel. We have key positional players who are high-end superstars and a rotation and bullpen that could be good enough to win a World Series. It just needs some pieces rotated.
Eyedea
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Leafsdude7
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I'm taking over the season.
And as has been noted by many, Gibby is using the call-ups a lot during this slump which is, IMO, making the pitching numbers look inflated. I don't think we've been pitching all that bad over this stretch.
Bad News Benning
Fallin for Dahlin?
Cubs have a team 3.09 ERA which is why they have won so many games.
Jays pitching has also carried the team much of the year but to a lesser extent.
The cubs have the level of pitching to sustain offensive slumps even in the playoffs. The Jays have good pitching but we can't afford that same luxury.
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They did manage to hold the opponents to under double digit runs the last few games.
Eyedea
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Nah, the starters have been horrible as well. Only the Braves, Astros, and DBacks have been worse in terms of ERA in the month of September. On the bright side the Angels have been the 6th worse in that span? So maybe, just maybe the offence can do something.
This is purely a discussion about offense. The Cubs pull the ball as much as the Jays and have a dominant offense.
Man Bear Pig
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The Jays could have the best staff in baseball right now and it wouldn't matter. They're the 2nd worst offense in almost every category the last little while. You just can't win when you score 2 or 3 runs a game. You may be able to stay around .500, but you aren't gonna make the playoffs.
Leafsdude7
Stand-Up Philosopher
Where can I find pitching stats for just starters?
For the whole pitching staff in September, including the bullpen, the Jays are 10th and 8th for OBA and WHIP (20th and 18th including the NL), which isn't great, but isn't terrible, even while they're 15th in ERA (29th in the league).
Eyedea
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