Master Scheif
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No one responded before so i'll ask again: Why are you guys excited for specifically Friday? I know that rounds 2-7 are friday, but you do know that the first round is Thursday @ 6, right?
2015 NHL Draft Discussion Part III
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I think you are getting the NBA draft dates confused with the NHL draft dates. Also the NHL draft will be broadcasted on Sportsnet. NBA draft is on TSN.
not sure if serious...
Master Scheif
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garret9
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Nation Network 2015 Prospect Profile
45 - Jacob Larsson
44 - Dennis Yan
43 - Yakov Trenin
42 - Roope Hintz
41 - Veeti Vaino
40 - Paul Bittner
39 - Noah Juulsen
38 - Thomas Novak
37 - Thomas Chabot
36 - Dennis Gurianov
35 - Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson
34 - Vince Dunn
33 - Brock Boeser
32 - Ryan Pilon
31 - Sebastian Aho (F)
30 - Pavel Zacha**
29 - Jakub Zboril
28 - Rasmus Andersson
27 - Filip Chlapik
26 - Joel Eriksson Ek
25 - Michael Spacek
24 - Mitchell Vande Sompel
23 - Jens Looke
22 - Jansen Harkins
21 - Jack Roslovic
20 - Travis Konecny (this surprised me)
19 - Nicolas Meloche
18 - Daniel Sprong
Reminder, the rankings are accumulation of subjective opinions, even if the subjective opinions have been shaped by objective information.
The write ups and statistical information in the articles though are very objective and interesting.
** On Pavel Zacha **
For Zacha slip up (IMO it's a slip up), see post 940.
Conspicuous by their absence. No sign of DeBrusk, Kylington, or White.....yet?
Curious to see if Beauvillier makes an appearance.
White was 48 and DeBrusk was 47, so they didn't make the cut.
Beauvillier does. Just as a warning, Rhys is madly in love with Beauvillier so there is a bit of an outlier vote haha
If they rely on statistics a lot (they do), Kylington will be top15, and Beauvillier top20
Also, post number 1099. Mods r asleep, woooo!
I'll give one hint. Beauvillier out ranks Kylington.
garret9
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I'll give away my votes since they were asked...
Name Rank
Connor McDavid 1
Jack Eichel 2
Dylan Strome 3
Mitchell Marner 4
Zachary Werenski 5
Kyle Connor 6
Ivan Provorov 7
Noah Hanifin 8
Mathew Barzal 9
Anthony Beauvillier 10
Jeremy Roy 11
Mikko Rantanen 12
Evgeni Svechnikov 13
Nicolas Meloche 14 (fully admit there is some heart in here more than just straight logic and brain hahah)
Oliver Kylington 15
Nick Merkley 16
Timo Meier 17
Mitchell Vande Sompel 18
Daniel Sprong 19
Jack Roslovic 20
Sebastian Aho 21
Joel Eriksson Ek 22
Michael Spacek 23
Jens Looke 24
Filip Chlapik 25
Travis Konecny 26 (I think this is one I really change the most if I re-did this today, other than Zacha)
Lawson Crouse 27
Jakub Zboril 28
Jansen Harkins 29
Rasmus Andersson 30
Jakub Karlsson 31
Roope Hintz 32
Jacob Larsson 33
Ryan Pilon 34
Vince Dunn 35
Denis Guryanov 36
Brock Boeser 37
Veeti Vainio 38
Pavel Zacha 39 (remember, I ***'ed this one up and the outlier that pulled Zacha down)
Conor Garland 40
Dennis Yan 41
Noah Juulsen 42
Paul Bittner 43
Sebastian Aho 44
Travis Dermott 45
Yakov Trenin 46
Thomas Novak 47
Christian Fischer 48
Jake DeBrusk 49
Thomas Chabot 50
Thomas Schemitsch 51
Andrew Mangiapane 52
Colin White 53
Blake Speers 54
Jeremy Bracco 55
Aleksi Saarela 56
Filip Ahl 57
Nikita Korostelev 58
Dmytro Timashov 59
Brandon Carlo 60
If I were to re-do the vote today... my order would not be the same.
This draft has some large tiers that are guys who are *very* close and intermixable.
Name Rank
Connor McDavid 1
Jack Eichel 2
Dylan Strome 3
Mitchell Marner 4
Zachary Werenski 5
Kyle Connor 6
Ivan Provorov 7
Noah Hanifin 8
Mathew Barzal 9
Anthony Beauvillier 10
Jeremy Roy 11
Mikko Rantanen 12
Evgeni Svechnikov 13
Nicolas Meloche 14 (fully admit there is some heart in here more than just straight logic and brain hahah)
Oliver Kylington 15
Nick Merkley 16
Timo Meier 17
Mitchell Vande Sompel 18
Daniel Sprong 19
Jack Roslovic 20
Sebastian Aho 21
Joel Eriksson Ek 22
Michael Spacek 23
Jens Looke 24
Filip Chlapik 25
Travis Konecny 26 (I think this is one I really change the most if I re-did this today, other than Zacha)
Lawson Crouse 27
Jakub Zboril 28
Jansen Harkins 29
Rasmus Andersson 30
Jakub Karlsson 31
Roope Hintz 32
Jacob Larsson 33
Ryan Pilon 34
Vince Dunn 35
Denis Guryanov 36
Brock Boeser 37
Veeti Vainio 38
Pavel Zacha 39 (remember, I ***'ed this one up and the outlier that pulled Zacha down)
Conor Garland 40
Dennis Yan 41
Noah Juulsen 42
Paul Bittner 43
Sebastian Aho 44
Travis Dermott 45
Yakov Trenin 46
Thomas Novak 47
Christian Fischer 48
Jake DeBrusk 49
Thomas Chabot 50
Thomas Schemitsch 51
Andrew Mangiapane 52
Colin White 53
Blake Speers 54
Jeremy Bracco 55
Aleksi Saarela 56
Filip Ahl 57
Nikita Korostelev 58
Dmytro Timashov 59
Brandon Carlo 60
If I were to re-do the vote today... my order would not be the same.
This draft has some large tiers that are guys who are *very* close and intermixable.
White was 48 and DeBrusk was 47, so they didn't make the cut.
Beauvillier does. Just as a warning, Rhys is madly in love with Beauvillier so there is a bit of an outlier vote haha
I'll give one hint. Beauvillier out ranks Kylington.
If you are using stats, how does Debrusk not make the top 45?? If you are using anything qualitative, how does White miss?? Those are real head-scratchers.
garret9
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I'm assuming yours was largely quantitative.
Debrusk so low on your list was a bit of a surprise, even though I am not a big fan of his for the Jets.
Was it because of his somewhat older age (October 1996 birthdate)?
I'm actually wondering why Meloche isn't generally ranked higher on lists. July birthday, good size, good point production, from what I read he's good defensively too (haven't watched him play so can't provide personal insight) Plays a physical game. Skating? Or what's his drawback that makes him looked at as more a 2nd round guy?
Sweech
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I share the Meloche love with you Garret.
Him and Dunn are the two that I have ranked quite a bit higher than the other rankings I see.
Him and Dunn are the two that I have ranked quite a bit higher than the other rankings I see.
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That is one of the more interesting bold lists out there. Glad to see a real debate.
What would be an interesting method of ranking for fun would be listing best to worst in the same fashion but using right to left (best to worst) to show tears as in
McDavid
Eichel
Strome Marner
Werenski
Cononor Provorov Hanifn
Etc etc
Not saying those are your tiers but it would give a much better feel for ranking. I thought of doing it but I'll be honest the more information I get the more I am changing my mind.
This is actually so far off on how the scouts say it will play out. [mod]
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garret9
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How is this thread so over 1k? hahah
How so?
The scouts are incredibly far off each other. Some scouts differ on some individuals (Ex: Svechnikov) by a full round.
It's actually amazing how little scouts agree.
How so?
The scouts are incredibly far off each other. Some scouts differ on some individuals (Ex: Svechnikov) by a full round.
It's actually amazing how little scouts agree.
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Joe Hallenback
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I think he probably means that guys like say Beauvillier,Meloche and Vande Sompel probably don't go that high and guys like Carlo,White and Bittner don't go that low in the draft.
I don't think it means that any of those guys will be better or worse then each other
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gare-joyces-2015-nhl-mock-draft/
Gare Joyce with a questionable draft. Hard to take it seriously.
Kylington at 17
Sprong at 25 btw
Gare Joyce with a questionable draft. Hard to take it seriously.
Kylington at 17
Sprong at 25 btw
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"25. Winnipeg Jets: Daniel Sprong, RW, Charlottetown Islanders
Top 10 skill but a lot of teams think he needs an attitude adjustment."
Which, if accurate makes the Jets among the least likely to take him.
Somebody with a lot more talent than I have needs to photoshop Sprongs head onto a guy getting attitude adjusted by John Cena......
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garret9
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There are many in the Q who think Ehlers needs an attitude adjustment.
I take with grain of salt.
I take with grain of salt.
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The one thing about Sprong is he is reportedly a hard worker and not the lazy sort. I think that's a more important trait for the Jets than the things mentioned about Sprong. The NHL will humble him.
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I don't know a Garret there is a huge difference between rivals thinking you need an attitude adjustment and acquiring teams thinking you need an attitude adjustment. I never heard a peep about teams at the combine having an issue with Nik last year in fact it was quite the opposite.
I take these things with a grain of salt as well (Kylington for example) but on the flip side when I hear enough from multiple sources then I also don't ignore it. The question will come down to whether TNSE think its an issue or not I guess.
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