2007 Draft: "Deep" or "Unspectacular"

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  1. wetcoastwhale

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    There have been conflicting media reports about the quality of this years draft: opinions would be welcome.

    In the Vancouver media, I have often heard how this year's draft is so deep and the Canucks are well set up with 4 picks in the top 60.

    With the Forsberg trade, now TSN and Bob McKenzie are calling this draft "unspectacular".

    With the trade-dealine looming, how valuable are picks for this year's draft?

    (I searched the last few pages of "prospects" for a similar topic, but didn't find any)
     
  2. Nich

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    no crosby's or malkins, but solid players through 2 rounds.

    deep draft but not much high end talent, but doesn't mean the kids can't turn into a malkin, etc player
     
  3. BobbyClarkeFan16

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    The big thing is that there's nobody who can supposedly step in right away and contribute. That's why the draft is being called unspectactular and in some circles, weak. Funny thing is, most scouts have called this a deep draft in that most teams will end up with a very good player in the first few rounds.
     
  4. Nich

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    i have heard that anybody in the first 60 picks can be first round players
     
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    I'm pretty happy that we will have 3 picks in the first 31. Add that to 4 picks in the first 2 rounds last year and that's how you build a deep farm really quickly.
     
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    Good. I don't know if I could take another Crosby or Malkin in the Atlantic.
     
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    No 'sure things', but an absolute crapload of 'could/would/should be' types

    At least that's what I think. Lots of potential, but nothing i'd bet the house on.
     
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    It's deep AND unspectacular... Solid talent later into the draft than usual but nothing incredible at the top of the table.
     
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    unspectacular, it's pretty weak after Voracek, Kane, Cherepanov.
     
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    If you take away Crosby, how does everyone think this draft compares to 2005?
     
  11. sucks. hf earlier posted an artical about 2 diffrent scouts, saying how this years draft no one jumps out at ya.


    2007 crap draft year.
     
  12. This is the kind of year where a team might be wise to trade for 2nds and maybe even higher 3rd rd picks as apposed to moving up for a higher first...

    I dont think many teams will be trading up ...say moving from 25th spot to 15th

    but maybe teams would be willing to part with sum assets to grab a couple 2nd rounders....

    i think this draft year will be a good year for vcr because they will load up the prospect pool with depth (not necessarily with top end guys like grabner bourdon schnieder but depth guys) with a 1st and three 2nds.
    Even if there isnt a crap load of top end talent....vcr still makes out with 4 players all in the top 60 in a draft that has good depth through about 2 rounds
     
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    No one jumps out because there are so many people at the top. People are waiting for someone to jump out sort of like Kovalchuk did in his draft year, Cherepanov kind of did but no one is convinced until after playoff season. That doesn't make the draft weak.
     
  14. Hunter Gathers

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    What are you talking about?
     
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    the proof that if you dont know what you are talking about..you should no say a world...

    pretty ridiculous comment....please do not play the expert when you have no clue about players eligible in the draft...
     
  16. Habsfan18

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    well, there isn't a top end player like a Crosby, Malkin or Ovechkin..but it seems like a pretty deep draft for the first 2 rounds or so.
     
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    Although there are no present superstars, we all know there will be 3 or 4 bonifide NHL all-stars comming out of this draft...just not immediately. A first round pick is always valuable, and really, the top 15 picks in this draft are very solid players.
     
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    I've been draft watching in many capacities for years and I'd say that compared to last year:
    2006/2007 top 12 or so are equal but no EJ, Toews or Staal for 2007
    2007 top 40 = 2006 top 30+
    2007 top 60+ = 2006 top 45+

    After that it's a real crap shoot as normal.

    League by league and country by country:
    WHL- much better than 2006
    OHL- worse then 2006 by some margin
    QMJHL- about equal or maybe slightly better than 2006
    USHL/Canada Tier 2- a bit better than 2006
    NCAA/USNPDT- same as 2006
    USHS- same (?)
    Sweden- a bit down
    Finland- down
    Czech- a bit down
    Russia- very slightly up from last year
    Other Europe- same, but not a big factor

    Positions:
    Forwards- A bit below 2006 at the top end but good depth thereafter
    Defensemen- Better depth than 2006 but no EJ
    Goalies- Not too good- well below 2006.

    Botton line- the draft crop is not exciting and spectacular but the depth looks to be reasonable.
     
  19. Judas Tavares

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    So would you say that the only players with chances of high all-star status in the NHL in this draft are the big 8 up front (Kane, Cherepanov, Voracek, Van Riemsdyk, Turris, Couture, Gagner, Esposito) and maybe a few d-men (Alzner, Ellerby, Blum, Negrin, Petrecki)?
     
  20. turnbuckle*

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    I actually thought his comment was pretty accurate...after those three the crop is pretty unspectacular...I'd also opine that it's not very deep. Players that in most years would be ranked in the 30-50s are being considered for the first round of this draft. It's deep in unspectacularism. The key is to find some hidden gems as there always are. I have a feeling a few of them may come from the USHS.
     
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    What about Alzner, Van Reimsdyk, and Couture...all of which I have seen ranked above those 3 in several sources. In my mind there is a pretty solid to 9, then it gets a little more difficult from 10-20, then from 20 on it's just a crapshoot.
     
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    Seems like there is a lack of top-end goaltending talent. No one is hyping the goaltenders.
     
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    Is trading down a few spots a possibility from the Flyers' perspective, assuming we end up with the 1st overall?
     
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    Most likely this is a very flat draft year with 1st rounders and 7th rounders defined by very fine degrees. Picking well this year will mean being who fits in with your team plans and who does not.
     
  25. turnbuckle*

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    Just because they've been ranked above those three on certain lists doesn't make them, more "spectacular" now, does it?

    I'd hardly call Logan Couture or JVR "spectacular." I guess it depends on your meaning of the word.

    I look at it this way - Derick Brassard would be in the running for the top pick this season, as would Okposo. if Backstrom, Kessel, Toews, Johnson, Staal were available this year, they'd be favourites for the top spot. That tells me that this is not a spectacular draft.

    I don't think McKenzie and the scouts he counselled before reaching that conclusion are blowing smoking out of their posteriors.
     

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