2005 Top 30

[Rich09]

Here's my 2005 top 30. I made it for my sim league. What do you think of it?

1. CROSBY SIDNEY
2. JOHNSON JACK
3. POULIOT BENOIT
4. BRULE GILBERT
5. KOPITAR, ANZE
6. RYAN BOBBY
7. Guillaume Latendresse
8. Alex Bourret
9. Marc Staal
10. Ryan O’Marra
11. Marek Zagrapan
12. Luc Bourdon
13. Jack Skille
14. BERGFORS, NICKLAS
15. STOA RYAN
16. Tuuka Rask
17. Carey Price
18. BERTRAM DAN
19. PARENT RYAN
20. HANZAL, MARTIN
21. SETOGUCHI DEVIN
22. LASHOFF MATT
23. KINDL JAKUB
24. DURAND CHRIS
25. LAAKSO, TEEMU
26. LEVASSEUR JEAN-PHILIPPE
27. ISTOMIN, DENIS
28. ZUBOV, ILJA
29. MCARDLE KENNDAL
30. VOJTA, JAKUB

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[Legionnaire]

Cogliano has got be in the top 30. Staal and Parent are too high IMO. The goales too low. As is Mcardle.

 

[Meat Wave]

Decent job, but I think think the two Russians, Zubov and Istomin, shouldn't be so high. Apparently, after the U-18, it's Slava Burachikov who should be considered the #1 Russian prospect available for this draft. I would say I agree with that, as Zubov and Istomin have both showed a very one-dimensional game and a poor work ethic.

 

[Rahan]

Here's my 2005 top 30. I made it for my sim league. What do you think of it?

1. CROSBY SIDNEY
2. JOHNSON JACK
3. POULIOT BENOIT
4. BRULE GILBERT
5. KOPITAR, ANZE
6. RYAN BOBBY
7. Guillaume Latendresse
8. Alex Bourret
9. Marc Staal
10. Ryan O’Marra
11. Marek Zagrapan
12. Luc Bourdon
13. Jack Skille
14. BERGFORS, NICKLAS

Odd that you went from "NAME SURNAME" to "Surname Name" and then back to "NAME SURNAME" in the middle of the list. Sorry, I'm picky

 

[Rich09]

Because I copie/paste names from differents sources.

 

[BigAl]

Thats a pretty good list, but Kendall McCardle is much too low. Top 15 IMO.

 

[Rich09]

Before Stoa, Bregfords, Skille and Bourdon?

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

Here's mine... not a mock draft, a top-30.

2. Jack Johnson
3. Gilbert Brule
4. Anze Kopitar
5. Bobby Ryan
6. Benoit Pouliot
7. Tuukka Rask
8. Alex Bourret
9. Guillaume LaTendresse
10. Ryan O'Marra
11. Kenndal McArdle
12. Marek Zagrapan
13. Care Price
14. Marc Staal
15. Jack Skille
16. Dan Bertram
17. Nicklas Bergfors
18. Jakub Kindl
19. Ryan Stoa
20. Devin Setoguchi
21. Luc Bourdon
22. Martin Hanzal
23. Matt Lashoff
24. Ryan Parent
25. Patrick Davis
26. Jean-Philippe LeVasseur
27. Teemu Laakso
28. Vyacheslav Trukhno
29. Mikko Lehtonen
30. Chris Durand

And I promise I'll **** a brick if Cogliano goes top 30.

 

[Legionnaire]

Here's mine... not a mock draft, a top-30.

2. Jack Johnson
3. Gilbert Brule
4. Anze Kopitar
5. Bobby Ryan
6. Benoit Pouliot
7. Tuukka Rask
8. Alex Bourret
9. Guillaume LaTendresse
10. Ryan O'Marra
11. Kenndal McArdle
12. Marek Zagrapan
13. Care Price
14. Marc Staal
15. Jack Skille
16. Dan Bertram
17. Nicklas Bergfors
18. Jakub Kindl
19. Ryan Stoa
20. Devin Setoguchi
21. Luc Bourdon
22. Martin Hanzal
23. Matt Lashoff
24. Ryan Parent
25. Patrick Davis
26. Jean-Philippe LeVasseur
27. Teemu Laakso
28. Vyacheslav Trukhno
29. Mikko Lehtonen
30. Chris Durand

And I promise I'll **** a brick if Cogliano goes top 30.

Be prepared. I'm betting he goes above Zagrapan fo sure.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Be prepared. I'm betting he goes above Zagrapan fo sure.

Whoever does that should be thew ones ****ting bricks. Zagrapan should go top 20 or the scouts have been smokeing some good stuff. Potential to be a better version of Zetterberg.

 

[dmcilvan]

Yeah, I can't possibly seen how Andrew Cogliano will go before Zagrapan. I think Zagrapan will go top 15 and Cogliano will go late 1st round, around 25th overall.

 

[Legionnaire]

Whoever does that should be thew ones ****ting bricks. Zagrapan should go top 20 or the scouts have been smokeing some good stuff. Potential to be a better version of Zetterberg.

He's slick, but he doesn't give his all game in and game out.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

He's slick, but he doesn't give his all game in and game out.

Yes he does, Zagrapan was Chicoutimi's most consistant and best player all year and into the playoffs. He competes hard and I have no idea where you get that he doesn't show up.

 

[turnbuckle*]

Here's a stab at it:

2. Jack Johnson
3. Gilbert Brule
4. Bobby Ryan
5. Benoit Pouliot
6. Anze Kopitar
7. Marc Staal
8. Alex Bourret
9. Ryan O'Marra
10. Jack Skille
11. Martin Hanzal
12. Marek Zagrapan
13. Carey Price
14. Tuukka Rask
15. Luc Bourdon
16. Dan Bertram
17. Nicklas Bergfors
18. Ryan Parent
19. Ryan Stoa
20. Guillaume Latendresse
21. JAKUB VOJTA
22. Kendal McArdle
23. Richard Lelkes
24. Jakub Kindl
25. TEEMU LAAKSO
26. Anton Krysanov
27. Brendan Mikkelson
28. Chris Durand
29. Ondrej Pavelec
30. Juraj Mikus
31. Devin Setoguchi

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

Hey that's a very interesting... considering draft day pans out like no one would expect, you might be right on the bill...

Don't mind my criticism, but I don't know about Krysanov so high... is there a reason? Props for Mikkelson 27th though... Mikus should also be an interesting one.

 

[HabLover]

Here's mine... not a mock draft, a top-30.

2. Jack Johnson
3. Gilbert Brule
4. Anze Kopitar
5. Bobby Ryan
6. Benoit Pouliot
7. Tuukka Rask
8. Alex Bourret
9. Guillaume LaTendresse
10. Ryan O'Marra
11. Kenndal McArdle
12. Marek Zagrapan
13. Care Price
14. Marc Staal
15. Jack Skille
16. Dan Bertram
17. Nicklas Bergfors
18. Jakub Kindl
19. Ryan Stoa
20. Devin Setoguchi
21. Luc Bourdon
22. Martin Hanzal
23. Matt Lashoff
24. Ryan Parent
25. Patrick Davis
26. Jean-Philippe LeVasseur
27. Teemu Laakso
28. Vyacheslav Trukhno
29. Mikko Lehtonen
30. Chris Durand

And I promise I'll **** a brick if Cogliano goes top 30.

You forgot #1??

 

[Safir*]

You forgot #1??

That's a rhetoric question I hope.

Has Martin Hanzals stock increased of late, because he wasn't mentioned as a potential first rounder at the beginning of the year. What happened here?

 

[Legionnaire]

Yes he does, Zagrapan was Chicoutimi's most consistant and best player all year and into the playoffs. He competes hard and I have no idea where you get that he doesn't show up.

So? Chcoutimi sucked. They totally underachaieved. And?

Come on now are you serious? Laziest player in the draft.

In a five year span, I will put my rep at stake. If Cog is not better than Zap at that time I will never post here again. I would stake that on draft position, but I'm sure there are more GM's hoping to get a total steal.

Marek is a bust. Trust me.

 

[CH Wizard]

Has Martin Hanzals stock increased of late, because he wasn't mentioned as a potential first rounder at the beginning of the year. What happened here?

His stock has raised a lot because he had an above average U-18's.He has some nice tools, he's really tall and has good all around skills.I wouldn't be surprised if a team would take a risk on him in the late first round.He's definately a nice project

 

[Anthony Mauro]

His stock has raised a lot because he had an above average U-18's.He has some nice tools, he's really tall and has good all around skills.I wouldn't be surprised if a team take a risk on him in the late first round.He's definately a nice project

Any similarities between him and Wheeler? I've seen people saying they'd take him over Zagrapan, guy who has numerously made top tens. I think top 15 is possible with his potential.

 

[Hiishawk]

Some thoughts:
Hanzal looks like a top 15 pick after a solid U18 tourney combined with excellent size.

Pavelec is also (as one poster noted) a top 30 candidate now.

Vojta was a smart pick too- although he's wildly inconsistent.

Laakso has really dropped- he hasn't improved over the season at all and hasn't improved strength, play without puck etc.

I'm not a Krysanov fan- lacks hockey sense.

I'll go with Istomin still as the top Russian pick, with Zubarev right on his heels. Buravchikov has great skill but is really small and had trouble containing his man at the U18s. Zubov is waste of skill- soft, soft, soft and a perimeter player to end all perimeter players- and in fact I haven't met any scouts who have thought otherwise.

Mikus was another astute pick by the earlier poster- he was very ...umm... Zagrapan-ish at the U18s.

 

[ZombieMatt]

I wonder if Hanzal's performance ducking to avoid hits and the like in the U18's is going to turn some teams off him.

 

[Anthony Mauro]

I wonder if Hanzal's performance ducking to avoid hits and the like in the U18's is going to turn some teams off him.

What was the magnitude of his ducking? If it was all out attempts to not get hit, I can see people having a problem with. But its pretty common for guys along the boards to duck and keep their momentum going. I mean why get hit if you dont have to? (PS: However, I never had the coordination these shifty players had to do this)

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

Some thoughts:
Hanzal looks like a top 15 pick after a solid U18 tourney combined with excellent size.

Pavelec is also (as one poster noted) a top 30 candidate now.

Vojta was a smart pick too- although he's wildly inconsistent.

Laakso has really dropped- he hasn't improved over the season at all and hasn't improved strength, play without puck etc.

I'm not a Krysanov fan- lacks hockey sense.

I'll go with Istomin still as the top Russian pick, with Zubarev right on his heels. Buravchikov has great skill but is really small and had trouble containing his man at the U18s. Zubov is waste of skill- soft, soft, soft and a perimeter player to end all perimeter players- and in fact I haven't met any scouts who have thought otherwise.

Mikus was another astute pick by the earlier poster- he was very ...umm... Zagrapan-ish at the U18s.

See, Hanzal, top-15, told you guys didn't I?!

 

[FacelessButcher]

What was the magnitude of his ducking? If it was all out attempts to not get hit, I can see people having a problem with. But its pretty common for guys along the boards to duck and keep their momentum going. I mean why get hit if you dont have to? (PS: However, I never had the coordination these shifty players had to do this)

No it wasn't ducking or "acceptable" evasive manuveurs he just straight up bailed on a much smaller player in Bertram. I can definetly seeing it deterring a Sutter or maybe Poile/Keenan from selecting him, but he demonstrated a high level of skill that most GM's would still find highly attractive. If nothing else I still like him