monster_bertuzzi
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crosby_87 said:Right now there is no way Cogliano is better. Tell me one reason that makes him a flat out "better player" then Oshie.
Talent?
crosby_87 said:Right now there is no way Cogliano is better. Tell me one reason that makes him a flat out "better player" then Oshie.
MaDdY said:Leafs fans will put Rask higher than Price
Habs fans will put Price higher
I'm a Leafs fan and i'll take Rask before Price. He's been way too impressive in a men's league. Thrashers fan can make a case about Pavelech too, u know...
I really like Pavelech and he's not far off from Rask and Price.
So talent alone makes him a better player? Talent makes it sound like he is better in every aspect of the game. IMO Oshie is a better shooter, passer, hitter, hard worker, and stronger. So what talent does Cogliano have that Oshie doesn't(other then speed.)monster_bertuzzi said:Talent?
Garbs said:Yes, but there's certainly a lot more non-Leaf/non-Hab fans in this thread putting Rask ahead of Price, and rightfully so.
gars59 said:it's pretty even
Garbs said:Unless I have the worst short-term memory in the free world, I'm pretty sure Rask has been placed on more top 10 lists than Price, when Montreal or Toronto fans haven't been involved.
You can go ahead anf prove me wrong, I'll gladly eat crow.
And I mean really, of all the things I said, you respond to that?
gars59 said:imo we will have to wait two or three years to saw who have reason ... the two goalie can bust , or become great .... we will see , we dont have to do a war , it's ridicoulus it's just sport !
Garbs said:It's healthy discussion...?
gars59 said:what do you mean .. i just think that a debate will not change what goalie will become ! all people could have reason !
Garbs you can add me to the rask listGarbs said:...what?
Anyway, for my own insanity.
Peter James Bond - Price
44_bertuzzi_44 - Rask
LeftKinger - "agrees" with 44_bertuzzi_44's list
Spetzky - Rask
clay - Rask
Tjardus Greidanus - Rask
Newfie Bruin - Rask
monster_bertuzzi - Price
KStewart113 - Price
jtuzzi - Price
And now I have to live down actually doing this on a Saturday night.
crosby_87 said:So talent alone makes him a better player? Talent makes it sound like he is better in every aspect of the game. IMO Oshie is a better shooter, passer, hitter, hard worker, and stronger. So what talent does Cogliano have that Oshie doesn't(other then speed.)
That's your argument? I was just stating what Oshie was better at because I think Oshie is better. I have my opinion, you can have yours. I don't see what that last post proved though.aspin said:Yes you are right, a better shooter, passer, hitter, hard worker and stronger, can do a better triple lux, quad, and he can leap tall buildings in a single bound.
crosby_87 said:That's your argument? I was just stating what Oshie was better at because I think Oshie is better. I have my opinion, you can have yours. I don't see what that last post proved though.
Garbs said:...what?
Anyway, for my own insanity.
Peter James Bond - Price
44_bertuzzi_44 - Rask
LeftKinger - "agrees" with 44_bertuzzi_44's list
Spetzky - Rask
clay - Rask
Tjardus Greidanus - Rask
Newfie Bruin - Rask
monster_bertuzzi - Price
KStewart113 - Price
jtuzzi - Price
And now I have to live down actually doing this on a Saturday night.
Richard_Zednik said:and me to the price list
Garbs said:but there's certainly a lot more non-Leaf/non-Hab fans in this thread putting Rask ahead of Price, and rightfully so.
I hate to admit it, but nice post. I will try to take Oshie's side on a few of these.aspin said:Well what am I supposed to say to your post? Your post was just as ridiculous and was without any objectivity whatsoever. I will give him the hitter and stronger but that is it. Cogliano has been dominant at every level he has been at since he was in his early teens. He started the year in college in the top scoring in college for quite sometime but just slowed right down after that due to his icetime being reduced especially one the PP.
He did not have the luxury of playing with Spirko and Zajac.
Cogliano has more speed in his baby toe than Oshie has in total and the great thing about Cogliano is that he can make plays at that top speed as well. Watching him at the WJCs though I wish he would cut another two inches off of his stick which would allow him to make more moves in close. Cogliano was almost a point a game player in the WJC with barely any PP time.