Carl O'Steen said:That's right, I think.
Best markets for Crosby would be...
New York
Toronto
Montreal
Philadelphia
Colorado
Edmonton (I just think it's a natural hockey town)
Detroit
How?Cosis said:There will be a draft this year one way or another. Might not be in June but there will be one sometime in 2005. Most likely before October.
Damn, posted this in wrong forum. Sorry all.
me2 said:take 30 balls numbered 1 to 30. (mess with max ball # to increase variability)
every team draws 1 ball.
add the number on the ball to teams number in standings (pengs 1 to Tampa 30)
Team with the lowest number goes 1st (tie breaker is worst team in standings)
Example
04standings 05Draft LotteryBall
3 Chicago 3
6 NY Rangers 2
1 Pittsburgh 11
9 Anaheim 6
14 Edmonton 5
4 Columbus 16
7 Florida 14
10 Atlanta 12
13 Buffalo 10
19 Calgary 4
2 Washington 22
12 Minnesota 15
20 Dallas 7
27 Boston 1
21 Colorado 8
11 Los Angeles 20
8 Carolina 25
5 Phoenix 29
22 New Jersey 13
18 Montreal 18
28 San Jose 9
15 Nashville 24
24 Toronto 19
26 Vancouver 17
16 NY Islanders 28
17 St. Louis 27
23 Ottawa 23
25 Philadelphia 21
30 Tampa Bay 26
29 Detroit 30
What?Panasonic Youth said:The black hawks most definately deserve the opportunity before anyone else. If a season was played Ovechkin would have ruined the chance for Washington to have that opportunity.
Rocket#9 said:How about they just put 465 names in a barrel.
30 Pittsburgh
29 Chicago
28 Washington
1 Tampa Bay etc
465 being 30! (dont know the english word for the (!) math formula)
Panasonic Youth said:The black hawks most definately deserve the opportunity before anyone else. If a season was played Ovechkin would have ruined the chance for Washington to have that opportunity.
Or this way:me2 said:take 30 balls numbered 1 to 30. (mess with max ball # to increase variability)
every team draws 1 ball.
add the number on the ball to teams number in standings (pengs 1 to Tampa 30)
Team with the lowest number goes 1st (tie breaker is worst team in standings)
Example
04standings 05Draft LotteryBall
3 Chicago 3
6 NY Rangers 2
1 Pittsburgh 11
9 Anaheim 6
14 Edmonton 5
4 Columbus 16
7 Florida 14
10 Atlanta 12
13 Buffalo 10
19 Calgary 4
2 Washington 22
12 Minnesota 15
20 Dallas 7
27 Boston 1
21 Colorado 8
11 Los Angeles 20
8 Carolina 25
5 Phoenix 29
22 New Jersey 13
18 Montreal 18
28 San Jose 9
15 Nashville 24
24 Toronto 19
26 Vancouver 17
16 NY Islanders 28
17 St. Louis 27
23 Ottawa 23
25 Philadelphia 21
30 Tampa Bay 26
29 Detroit 30
T@T said:Or this way:
Have a hat that holds 100 names,random pick the names until all teams are done.
Number denotes how many times there names are entered based on 03/04 season standings.
Pittsburgh...9
Washington/Chicago...8
Columbus...7
Phoenix...6
NY Rangers...5
Florida...5
Anaheim/Carolina...5
Atlanta...5
Los Angeles...4
Minnesota...4
Buffalo...4
Edmonton...4
NY Islanders/Nashville/St. Louis...3
Montreal...3
Calgary...3
Dallas...3
Colorado/New Jersey...3
Vancouver/Philadelphia...2
Ottawa...2
Toronto...2
San Jose/Boston...2
Tampa Bay...1
Detroit...1
Fair?
me2 said:take 30 balls numbered 1 to 30. (mess with max ball # to increase variability)
every team draws 1 ball.
add the number on the ball to teams number in standings (pengs 1 to Tampa 30)
Team with the lowest number goes 1st (tie breaker is worst team in standings)
Wetcoaster said:How?
Without a CBA it would run afoul of antitrust law.
Jaded-Fan said:Not even close. None of us knows what the NHL means by 'weighted draft involving all 30 teams' but I think that they mean a bit more weighted toward the top. Your example has Crosby with about almost a 1 in 3 chance of going to one of the following: Montreal, Calgary, Dallas, Colorado, New Jersey, Vancouver, Philadelphia, Ottawa, Toronto, San Jose, Boston, Tampa Bay or Detroit. I can see a token chance for one of those teams, who really do not need yet another leg up to add to the huge stable of better players everyone of those teams has, to move up even to number one. I can see it though even that I do not agree with it. But a 1 in 3 chance for that list of teams? Absolutely sickening.
E = CH² said:Who cares about Crosby. Only one team is going to end up with him. All the teams you list could just as easily end up drafting 30.
That's fair. You don't want to admit it. But it is. And I'm not saying this out of bias. Mtl doesn't really have much to gain one way or another since we're middle of the pack. Could be better, could be much worse too.
But I do believe that the bottom feeders of last year have already got their compensation. And I do believe that to hold a draft using last year standings whevener hockey starts up again would not be representative of reality and what truly is happening right now. The NHL will be turned upside down with all those free agents, prospects ready to make the jump, organization movement, etc.
There's just nothing in my eyes that warrants a draft based on last season's standings.
Your math sucks dude!!Jaded-Fan said:Not even close. None of us knows what the NHL means by 'weighted draft involving all 30 teams' but I think that they mean a bit more weighted toward the top. Your example has Crosby with about almost a 1 in 3 chance of going to one of the following: Montreal, Calgary, Dallas, Colorado, New Jersey, Vancouver, Philadelphia, Ottawa, Toronto, San Jose, Boston, Tampa Bay or Detroit. I can see a token chance for one of those teams, who really do not need yet another leg up to add to the huge stable of better players everyone of those teams has, to move up even to number one. I can see it though even that I do not agree with it. But a 1 in 3 chance for that list of teams? Absolutely sickening.
Van said:Yup. You have to have a CBA to have a draft. If no CBA is agreed upon in 2005, there will be no draft in 2005.
T@T said:Your math sucks dude!!
Montreal, Calgary, Dallas, Colorado, New Jersey,NY Islanders,Nashville,St. Louis have 3% of getting the #1 pick.
Vancouver,Philadelphia,Ottawa,Toronto have 2%
Read,understand and then respond
Cosis said:There will be a draft in 2005. One way or another.
John Flyers Fan said:IMO the fairest way to do it is to have a complete lottery, Tampa has equal chance as Pittsburgh to get Crosby ... but then have this draft snake .. 1-30, 30-1 etc.
I believe he means 1 in 3 chance of going to one of that group of teams. Not a 1 in 3 chance for each individual team he mentioned.T@T said:Your math sucks dude!!
Montreal, Calgary, Dallas, Colorado, New Jersey,NY Islanders,Nashville,St. Louis have 3% of getting the #1 pick.
Vancouver,Philadelphia,Ottawa,Toronto have 2%
Read,understand and then respond
Yeah, Jagr's image was further trashed in DC because he was an ex-Pen. Even Robert Lang, who seems to be a very likable fellow had his detractors in Washington because of being an ex-Pen. AO doesn't carry that baggage.Jaded-Fan said:...I do suspect though that unlike Jagr, who is not the most likable of people, AO likely will make a difference and will turn a corner for you guys. I love Malkin, but AO will bring people into your arena.