2003 redraft: #5

#5 pick

  • David Backes

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Dustin Brown

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brent Burns

    Votes: 15 12.5%
  • Dustin Byfuglien

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Matt Carle

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jeff Carter

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Corey Crawford

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brian Elliott

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Loui Eriksson

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Marc-Andre Fleury

    Votes: 18 15.0%
  • Jaroslav Halak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jimmy Howard

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ryan Kesler

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Zach Parise

    Votes: 3 2.5%
  • Joe Pavelski

    Votes: 18 15.0%
  • Corey Perry

    Votes: 25 20.8%
  • Dion Phaneuf

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brent Seabrook

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ryan Suter

    Votes: 34 28.3%
  • Thomas Vanek

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    120

Video Nasty

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One fluke season? How do you explain that Perry has more all star nominations then? Lol.

In a similar way that during Perry’s second All-Star nod in 2013-2014, Ovechkin was voted #2 at RW…the position wasn’t remotely deep.

Jagr was 41 years old and arguably top 5 at RW. That should you tell you something.

Perry, Kessel, Kane (he had 1 AS nod and 1 season over 72 points up to that point), Okposo, 38 year old St. Louis, and Wheeler were the only right wingers who scored more than 41 year old Jagr.

Someone mentioned Suter being top 10 in Norris voting 6 years in a row which is true. I would dial back a little bit and hone in on his 3 top 5 finishes in 5 years. He was a very close runner up to Subban, then finished behind Keith, Chara, and Weber the next year, then we saw Karlsson, Doughty, and Josi emerge, followed by Burns and Hedman. That’s a pretty deep pool overall.

I don’t blame a player for taking advantage of the situation in front of them. After all, Perry still scored 50 goals and 98 points in 2010-2011.

But equally important to note is that he has a Hart and Rocket because Crosby and Malkin each missed half a season and Ovechkin had a coach actively discourage his greatest strength.

Plus, in a season where the winner isn’t clear cut, whoever has the best final month often wins out. Perry had 31 goals and 68 points in 66 games through 3/8/11. Then he went nuts during the remaining month with 19 goals and 30 points in 16 games leading the Ducks to a 12-4 finish and the #4 seed in a very congested #4-8 seed race (all 5 teams finished with 97-99 points).

Perry was electric for 1 month in 2010-2011, had a great 2013-2014 in a thin field, and a couple of good seasons and some solid playoff runs sprinkled in. It’s not mystifying that some are not totally enamored with him.
 
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byrath

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2 outlier years is better than no outlier years.

Being a top line player = being a top pair D.

Suter was a top 15 D from 2008-2009 to 2017-18. 9 seasons.

Perry was a top 15 forward from 08-09 to 15-16. 7 seasons.


Peak always trumps a prime. At his peak, Perry was the best winger on the planet, at his peak Suter was maybe a top 5 defender in the league.
I voted for Perry but after listening to arguments from both sides and looking at their career stats and accomplishments, I changed my vote to Suter
Sorry dude
 

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