1989 Entry Draft REDONE

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by ktownhockey, Jul 23, 2004.

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  1. ktownhockey

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    Actual Picks:
    1) Mats Sundin
    2) Dave Chyowski
    3) Scott Thornton
    4) Stu Barnes
    5) Bill Geurin
    6) Adam Bennett
    7) Doug Zmolek
    8) Jason Herter
    9) Jason Marshall
    10) Bobby Holik
    11) Mike Sillinger
    12) Rob Pearson
    13) Lindsay Vallis
    14) Kevin Haller
    15) Jason Soules
    16) Jamie Heward
    17) Shayne Stevenson
    18) Jason Miller
    19) Olaf Kolgiz
    20) Stepehn Rice
    21) Steve Bancroft

    My Picks:
    1) QUE - Nicklas Lidstrom
    2) NYI - Mats Sundin
    3) TOR - Pavel Bure
    4) WIN - Sergei Federov
    5) NJ - Adam Foote
    6) CHI - Bill Geurin
    7) MIN - Bobby Holik
    8) VAN - Olaf Kolgiz
    9) STL - Donald Audette
    10) HAR - Kris Draper
    11) DET - Robert Reichel
    12) TOR - Stu Barnes
    13) MON - Patrice Breisbois
    14) BUF - Aaron Miller
    15) EDM - Wes Walz
    16) PIT - Rob Zaumner
    17) BOS - Trent Klatt
    18) NJ - Dallas Drake
    19) WSH - Travis Green
    20) NYR - Vladamir Malakhov
    21) TOR - Biron Dafoe

    Decent Draft..... let me know what you think..
     
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    Move Fedorov up to 2.
     
  3. ktownhockey

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    Only 6 players from the first round would have been first rounders this year.. IMO
     
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    You left out Vladimir Konstantinov.
     
  5. ktownhockey

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    Yeah the reason I did that is because his career was in the decline when these teams got him. Also, they didn't know if he was actually going to come over....

    I probably could have fit him in from 10 onward... but I didn't feel comfortable with that.... he's an awesome player though
     
  6. ktownhockey

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    2 to 4 are VERY arguable... I see Bure as the most dangerous player and most effective in his prime.... Sundin is just consistent as hell and a great leader and all around player.... Federov is very dynamic... he's had an awesome career.. but int he end I think Sundin and Bure were better choices..... he's still amazing though dont get me wrong in that regard.
     
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    Malakhov, Barnes need to be higher.
     
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    Agreed. Barnes should be behind Kolzig...Barnes > Audette, Draper, and the argument could be made for Barnes > Reichel.
     
  9. ktownhockey

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    Barnes should not be selected higher than Kris Draper....

    Audette and him would be arguable.... Audette has quietly scored alot of goals in his time , when he hasnt been injured.
     
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    Kris Draper: 724 108 128 236 526
    Stu Barnes: 897 221 292 513 328

    Granted, stats certainly aren't everything, especially in Draper's case. However, I think Draper has benefited a lot by being on the last decade's best team. Barnes has lead two sub-par teams to the finals and put up very consistent stats along the way.

    In the end, this one will come down to personal opinion.

    However, I think that Barnes is > than Audette is an easy one. I can tell you who 99% of NHL GMs would rather have now...
     
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    Had Bure not missed so many games these past few seasons and kept up the type of scoring production he had throughout most his career, he could IMO challenge Sundin for 2nd overall...not knocking Sundin's talent and impact but Bure was such a dominate goal scorer, that you can forgive his defensive lapses
     
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    I'm sure 99% of NHL GMs would rather have Draper than Barnes too.
    I like it but I think Konstantinov should be there, and Audette should be below Barnes. Decent draft for non-first rounders, but certainly not the best drafting I've seen from round 1...
     
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    1-Lidstrom
    2-Fedorov
    3-Bure
    4-Sundin
     
  14. ktownhockey

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    Yah now that i think about it Konsty should be there....

    and Barnes is better than Audette... but i just felt that audette should get pick higher.. just my opinion lol
     
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    Fedorov is the best player out of that draft ( total package )
    Bure best goal scorer
    Sundin best over all offsensive player
    Lidstron is the product of the great team he plays for . Put him on a bad team and his game is not great overrated IMO but a good not great player

    Bet you senator fans wish you had players like fedorov,bure & sundin because you would have a great team and would not have given alfredsson so much money
     
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    I would still take Sundin second. He has been consistently better offensively than Fedorov and he is no slouch on defense (he is no selke winner either though). Bure has been injured too much to warrant picking him over Sundin. The bottom line is that at age 33 Sundin is as good as he was at age 21 while Fedorov and Bure have faded (Bure more so).
     
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    The greatness of the Red Wings is more a product of Lidstrom than the other way round.
     
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    WHAAAAA? Vlad was on his way to becoming one of the most dominant defensive d-men in the league before his accident. Who are YOU thinking of?
     
  19. ktownhockey

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    HE didn't impress me much when I watched him.... just my opinion though...
     
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    When you watched him you were a twelve/thirteen year old punk. You didn't have an opinion yet!
     
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    Good one..... your jokes are about at the level of a 12/13 year olds maturity now... anyways, your obviosuly some loser who needs to try to carve people on hockey message boards, cause you were too afraid to do it in real life... real tough. lol anyways continue with your bias commentary and your ridiculous personal attacks cause your soo tough over the computer.....

    be constructive , not an idiot...
     
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    Ok, so, Lidstrom is a product of being on a great team, yet Fedorov who has played all but one season in Detroit, does not get discriminated against in the same manner?

    Flawed logic.

    And the shot the Senators kind of baffles me. Completely baffles me in fact. Alfredsson got about 5.5 million a year. Hardly overpayment considering Mats Sundin is getting 9 million a year while contributing roughly the same amount to his team.

    Also for my money...

    1) Lidstrom
    2) Bure
    3) Fedorov
    4) Sundin

    IMO, the last two are interchangeable. Lidstrom is the best defenceman of his era, and Bure was one of the great pure goal scorers maybe ever. Fedorov and Sundin were consistent all-round threats, but Fedorov has only one season of 70 or more points in about the last 8 or 9, and Sundin's a consistent 70-80 point player.
     
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    I was just stating that you were too young to judge Vlad. Sorry I got under your skin, should have left off that "punk" comment, eh? I didn't mean my reply to be construded as an attack, sorry dude.
     
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    Federov is NOT a product of the Redwings because on a piss poor Ducks team he still put up #'s!!!
     
  25. ktownhockey

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    No problem.....
    and ive been a good judge of talent since I was real young... In this draft situation though I didn;t want to pick him because he was older than the draft age by quite a bit.. and I didn't think he was a top D

    with the wings I thought he was steady... nothing spectacular.. but a solid NHL defenceman ...
    too bad about that accident though.
     
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