1987 Canada vs. USSR : both disqualified

[wilka91*]

Can anybody tell me more about this 1987 WJC? I know that both teams were disqulified because of some big brawl, but I'd like some details. Can anybody provide me with a link?

Thanks

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[ktownhockey]

Can anybody tell me more about this 1987 WJC? I know that both teams were disqulified because of some big brawl, but I'd like some details. Can anybody provide me with a link?

Thanks

This was named the Piastany(pardon my spelling lol) punch up.... Canada was winning and were about to solidify the gold mental when things out of hand and Russia and Canada started slashing each other and a bench clearing brawl broke out which led to chaos and the Canadian team being led out of the country.. as a result Canada lost their claim for the gold medal and along with Russia were disqualified from the tournment..

Heres a link with a clip of the incident:
http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-41-1459-9679/sports/don_cherry/clip2

ps. the lights went out during the melay.

enjoy

 

[Kugel]

Can anybody tell me more about this 1987 WJC? I know that both teams were disqulified because of some big brawl, but I'd like some details. Can anybody provide me with a link?

Thanks

ALso if u get eson classic canada they r showing this game i think on Monday the 20th.....i also want to see this game casue i have only seen some hi lights.

 

[Madevilz]

wow Cherry's comment was just

 

[Paxon]

wow Cherry's comment was just

Yeah, he's a lovable little guy. I have to give him credit for saying something along the lines of "I'll side with Canada right or wrong", admitting to bias.

 

[Frightened Inmate #2]

wow Cherry's comment was just

He was 100% correct though, that wanker on the other side either didn't watch hockey or was trying way to hard to come off as a great hockey mind. Cherry said roughly, they did what they had to do, and you know what if you watch the tape, that is correct there is no doubt about that.

 

[brian]

Canada did not have the gold medal in hand. They had to beat the Soviets by a wide margin like 7 goals to get the gold. Finland had the superior goal for against ratio. The Soviets were out of the medals all together and had absolutely nothing to lose (other than a few teeth) by brawling.

 

[YEMELIN74]

ALso if u get eson classic canada they r showing this game i think on Monday the 20th.....i also want to see this game casue i have only seen some hi lights.

nice ill watch that on monday... do u know what time is it?

 

[espo*]

Canada did not have the gold medal in hand. They had to beat the Soviets by a wide margin like 7 goals to get the gold. Finland had the superior goal for against ratio. The Soviets were out of the medals all together and had absolutely nothing to lose (other than a few teeth) by brawling.

Think they only had to beat them by four and were well on their way to doing it.Who knows what would have happened but it was a fishy ploy bythe Soviet coach....Cherry was right that day and i'm glad he told Williams off...he deserved it and i've never liked the guy since.

 

[not quite yoda]

The cool thing is that the Frf and linesman were Europeans (Czechs I thknk) and they had no clue how to handle 20fights at a time. So they just stood at the zamboni entrance with their arms crossed and watched... and the fights didn't end... so the fans began whistling (sign of discontent in Europe)... and then the organizers turned off the lights in the building tyo calm everyone down... and the players kept fighting in pitch black conditions... and the lights came back on... and they were still fighting...

It's truely a classic.

 

[espo*]

Without a doubt.....i don't remember ever being so jacked up.....maybe 1987 Canada cup or Salt Lake but that's it.

 

[slosharksfan*]

so what happind in 85? us vs ussr?

 

[brian]

My mistake it wasn't 7, but it wasn't 4 either. If I recall it was a five goal margin that they had to win by. It is questionable

 

[Bandwagoner]

Cherry was right that day and i'm glad he told Williams off...he deserved it and i've never liked the guy since.

That look that he gave Williams was classic

 

[ES]

Canada had to win by 2 goals and Soviets were leading 4-2, so Canada needed four goals at that point. The fight started after 13 minutes of 2nd period.

Btw, Theoren Fleury was one of the starters of the fight.

I can read more after I am back home.

 

[wilka91*]

Wow, some peole are really too biased here.

I'm just asking for a clip.

 

[wilka91*]

Look what I've found : http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2868&item=6346780469&rd=1

But the bidding is over, damn!

 

[Jussi]

The cool thing is that the Frf and linesman were Europeans (Czechs I thknk) and they had no clue how to handle 20fights at a time. So they just stood at the zamboni entrance with their arms crossed and watched... and the fights didn't end... so the fans began whistling (sign of discontent in Europe)... and then the organizers turned off the lights in the building tyo calm everyone down... and the players kept fighting in pitch black conditions... and the lights came back on... and they were still fighting...

It's truely a classic.

A Finnish hockey mag described it that when the lights went out, the players stopped fighting, but continued immediately when they came back on. The fighting didn't stop until the local militias showed and locked and loaded their AK-47's.

Edit: I found the Jääkiekkolehti issue with a good description of the events. The ref was Norwegian Ulf Rönning, and one of the linesmen was Finnish Peter Pomoell (whose words were mainly used in the article). Pomoell said Rönning was poor throughout the match. Soviets were indeed leading the game 4-2 when the fight started. The magazine also had a clear description on how it started, I'll post it later if anyone's interested.

 

[tony2532]

Canada had to win by 2 goals and Soviets were leading 4-2, so Canada needed four goals at that point. The fight started after 13 minutes of 2nd period.

Btw, Theoren Fleury was one of the starters of the fight.

I can read more after I am back home.

You got it wrong. Canada was leading 4-2 at the time - that I'm sure of. My recollection was that Canada needed to win by 4 goals to win the gold. With a win they were guaranteed the silver.

In those days the tournament was a round robin format and the Russians were already out of the medals.

 

[Jussi]

You got it wrong. Canada was leading 4-2 at the time - that I'm sure of. My recollection was that Canada needed to win by 4 goals to win the gold. With a win they were guaranteed the silver.

Quote from the article I mentioned: "When the fight started, both teams were a man down and Soviets were leading 4-2." And as ES said Fleury basically started the fight by spearing Smirnov who was trying to close the puck against the boards. Pavel Kostitshkin, who was playing in Finland when the article was written, said that he was on his way to help Smirnov when Everett Sanipass (?) hit him. Fleury was also going to hit him but he hit first, that's when it all began.

 

[Bill McNeal]

Quote from the article I mentioned: "When the fight started, both teams were a man down and Soviets were leading 4-2." And as ES said Fleury basically started the fight by spearing Smirnov who was trying to close the puck against the boards. Pavel Kostitshkin, who was playing in Finland when the article was written, said that he was on his way to help Smirnov when Everett Sanipass (?) hit him. Fleury was also going to hit him but he hit first, that's when it all began.

Seems to be conflicting reports because over at TSN they have it the other way around:

With Canada in contention for gold and leading Russia 4-2 in their final game, the lights went out - literally. A bench-clearing brawl erupted and officials, struggling to restore order, had the lights in the arena shut off. The players continued to fight in the dark, and organizers were forced to cancel the game. Both teams were eventually disqualified from the competition.

http://www.tsn.ca/World_jrs/feature.asp?fid=3845

Maybe somebody who watched those Juniors could tell us

 

[wilka91*]

We all know TSN is all about Canada, so if they were losing, TSN would still claim Canada was leading!

 

[TORRUS]

A Finnish hockey mag described it that when the lights went out, the players stopped fighting, but continued immediately when they came back on. The fighting didn't stop until the local militias showed and locked and loaded their AK-47's.

Edit: I found the Jääkiekkolehti issue with a good description of the events. The ref was Norwegian Ulf Rönning, and one of the linesmen was Finnish Peter Pomoell (whose words were mainly used in the article). Pomoell said Rönning was poor throughout the match. Soviets were indeed leading the game 4-2 when the fight started. The magazine also had a clear description on how it started, I'll post it later if anyone's interested.

We're interested. Please do that!

 

[Johnny]

We all know TSN is all about Canada, so if they were losing, TSN would still claim Canada was leading!

TSN not good enough for you... Scroll down to 1987, where you will see what this particular non Canadian site had the score listed as, ironically enough 4-2 Canada as well.http://www.russianjerseys.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003926;p=1

 

[espo*]

We all know TSN is all about Canada, so if they were losing, TSN would still claim Canada was leading!

Canada was leading in that game.....check it out...tsn is just reporting what the score was.Of course tsn is about Canada,should it be different?But Canada was leading by two goals in that game.