Post-Game Talk: #18| FLYERS 0 at Wild 3 | Tue. Nov. 14, 8:00 pm ET

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  1. deadhead

    deadhead Registered User

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    And like the Flyers, it took them 5 years to get all this talent together, and it's going to take another couple years to develop it.
    And maybe no one noticed the Astros losing 100+ games for three years, then needing 3 more years to turn it around.

    When you start from ground zero, it takes a while to erect a building.
     
  2. Lindberg

    Lindberg Bennyflyers16 get a life

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    I think the fourth line would have more points by now if the middle six actually scored. Probably would open up the ice for them a bit late game and you might seem them get a few 2 on 1 rushes.
     
  3. LegionOfDoom91

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    Building from ground zero would have been trading Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, etc. from the get go. Hextall didn’t do that because he was adamant against tanking & thought they could compete while rebuilding.
     
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    Something for all the Flyers on your Christmas list.

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  5. Danko

    Danko ...the way she goes

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    What a sack of crap this team is. Its not even worth watching. I knew 1 minute into the game how this was going to go.

    Im not a doctor but Simmonds just looks completely off.

    The 4th line was the most entertaining yet again.

    I enjoy watching Hagg.
     
  6. Flyerfan4life

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    maybe Simmer is sik of Haks ****. and just doing his own thing..

    sorta like how Ghost did last year and said
     
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    Yeah, but since it doesn't count against the cap, it's sorta "free" money.

    The Flyers will cover it by raising the price of a beer to $32.

    A small price to pay. :nod:
     
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  8. BillDineen

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    Terrible game. WTF.
     
  9. flyersphan20

    flyersphan20 Dilly Dilly

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    Holy overreactions Batman
     
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  10. flyersphan20

    flyersphan20 Dilly Dilly

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    But also the STH town hall can’t come soon enough
     
  11. flyersphan20

    flyersphan20 Dilly Dilly

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    However I am just saying that there comes a time when you can’t keep blaming coaches for a team’s failure. I don’t know if we’ve hit that point yet but we are now on coach #3 with this core and have 1 playoff series win. At some point we have to take a good long hard look at the players and realize if it’s the right mix and if they’re good enough. That time is coming.
     
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  12. dats81

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    Terrible game, terrible coaching, zero drive.

    Break up the top line now. Put Lehtera and Weise on Waivers. Call up Lindblom and Martel.
    Send a message. Homer would have been yelling at them in the locker room and if Hextall has any balls he better start getting vocal now.
     
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  13. kudymen

    kudymen Derian was a dummy

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    Thanks for the pipeline, whoever deserves credit for that.

    But holy **** what the hell with all those roster decisions...
     
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  14. flyersphan20

    flyersphan20 Dilly Dilly

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    We all get on Weise and Lehtera, but Konecny, Weal, and Simmonds all haven’t scored in weeks

    Konecny’s last goal: 10/26
    Simmonds: 10/21
    Weal: 10/30

    We all love them but they deserve their fair share of criticism as well. No excuses. They have to step up.
     
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  15. Magua

    Magua 5 For Tomahawking

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    What core though? It's only 4 players that have been here: Giroux, Couturier, Voracek, Simmonds.

    There does come a time when players need to be held accountable, but 3/4 of those were top 10 in points before this game and the second best line in hockey. Team would actually be in contention for a lottery pick without any of the first 3, and who in their right mind wants to get rid of them, even ignoring lost value and whatnot? Those first 3 are still our core forwards up front long-term and will be vital to any Cup contending. That group is one of the only things screwed on properly with this team. Even with Simmonds, for all his flaws and looming trade situation, I seem to recall a healthy amount of people referring to him last year as our best forward or "true" leader or a player any contending team would want (validity of a couple of those statements not withstanding). He's the only part of the nucleus worth looking long and hard at.

    The problem is otherwise terrible roster optimization and talent evaluation, from the GM down to the coach.
     
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  16. Captain Dave Poulin

    Captain Dave Poulin Imaginary Cat

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    Nothing douses a fire like a bucketload of stupidity, amirite?

    What an awful, stupid game that was. It made me think of the Nick Schultz Era. Totally insipid. **** off, Hakstok.
    I'm too tired to even rage properly lol.
     
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    There are only 4 players left from the Lavi era [Giroux, Coots, Simmonds, and Jake, Matt Read doesn't count]. How much more turnover do you want? It's no coincidence that the last time a team won a playoff series and looked decent was when they had a head coach with an actual resume, and not one getting his first NHL gig and proceeding to coach like hot garbage.
     
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  18. BillDineen

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    Is two of Martel, Lindlbom or Vecchione for Lehtera and Weise really too much to ask for? Is there actually any downside whatsoever to doing that? I know Kerry Huffman was rushed to the NHL and Hextall is obsessed with it, but you have two non-NHL caliber players and NHL caliber prospects, why not try a few games?
     
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  19. freakydallas13

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    They do not contain sufficient quantities of Hakstol Safe® to warrant a roster spot.
     
  20. dats81

    dats81 Registered User

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    There is a grain of truth in it but first and foremost Weise and Lehtera are 100% to be credited to Ron Hextall.
    He added them to the roster and he is the only one who can cut them from the roster now.
     
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  21. Adam Warlock

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    I dont see how this team is any better 2 years from now. All the impact young players are here (Ghost, Provy, and Patrick)...any new guys promoted will just be depth and G/V will be 2 years older. Hakstol will still be here.

    Unless Hexy adds an impact player this team is what it is.
     
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  22. usahockey22flyers

    usahockey22flyers Daje Roma!

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    Slow start for Minny, but it is never easy going into their place and winning
     
  23. TheKingPin

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    Yea I like weal. I guess you could bench filp instead. Seems unlikely.
     
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    Thats telling that our own commentators are saying bings like that. They never really do. I know Barkhann was livid after the preds loss. There is now way Hak is like Reid though. Ried went to multiple conf championships and a Super Bowl. The way Hak doesn’t adjust has zero shot of winning a playoff round let alone 3-4.

    Fire him already! He’s a joke! Tamper and offer Lavi Babs money and get him back here. More jam!
     
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    Great point
     

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