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I like him too much to let him go along with zucker for kessel. Let’s go our separate ways. Sound good?
Speculation: 10 Trade Suggestions from The Score
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No one is going to pay that much for ROR, esp with that cap hit. Those are our two most valuable prospects and a 1st on top. Not surprising that all the Buf fans take it and all the Blues fans say no.
Canadian Canuck
Hughes4Calder
Agreed. I want, and have seen most sensible leafs fans agree to Tanev for 1st+2nd+Rasanen type prospect
Canadian Canuck
Hughes4Calder
Don't make stuff up. No sane Canucks fan as asked for Nylander or Marner in over a year and a half because we have taken into account Tanev's injury history and how much Nylander+Marner have improved. Liljegren+1st has been asked for though and is wishful thinking but I doubt Toronto even considers it.
stl76
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Feels like you're focusing a lot on reason B) and not addressing reason A)...or the rest of the post you quoted.
Howie Hodge
Zombie Woof
Rasmus CacOlainen
The end of the Tank
Sabres would have to retain to make the ROR deal a remote possibility and I would surely be in favor of doing so. ROR at 5.5 mil cap hut sounds about right to me for that return. Might even throw in some garbage middle round pick as a sign of good will 
BROCK HUGHES
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BROCK HUGHES
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I dont even know why we need to keep trying to trade Tanev to the Leafs personally.There are other teams we could move him to that could offer a better deal..So lets move on from the Leafs.
You realize that would never happen not even if you retained 50%. Thomas and Dunn fill positional needs of stl. What is the point of making 2 holes to fill 1. And get older doing it. Just doesn't make sense
Canadian Canuck
Hughes4Calder
Don’t want Leivo or Carrick. Would rather Tanev for 1st+2nd+4th or a meh prospect
Canadian Canuck
Hughes4Calder
Top prospects and picks. I’m literally every position we need something. From Toronto Liljegren and picks are the only assets that interest me.
Tanev for Liljegren straight up or Tanev for 1st+2nd+2nd would be great.
MattMartin
Killer Instinct™
I hope to everything that's holy we don't give up the 12th pick for Grubauer.
Lunatik
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It's more than a slight overpayment. Would you give all that up for Jiri Hudler? Because that's what Hoffman is.
It seems you have zero concept of the word potential because Bennett still has it despite what you and your Oiler brethren like to spam on HF and Andersson is chalk full of potential. A 2nd is never useless to a team like Ottawa as they will be pinching their pennies as long as Melnyk runs the team. Also Hoffman might score some points, but he is a soft one dimensional winger, essentially a 2018 version of Jiri Hudler.
La Cosa Nostra
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Agreed. Why would the Blues trade a prospect whose absolute ceiling is RoR for RoR
Zadorov>Thomas
RoR is a legit top 20 center. He's easily the best center in St.Louis if he was acquired. But that's ok, I remember how guys like Smaltz , Rattie, Jaskin Among others were other "untouchable" elite prospects.
If St.Louis was offered RoR, a legit top 20 center in the league. A real 1C with elite two way play signed for 5 more years who will put up 60-65 points year in and year out is easily worth 2 prospects and a 1st. Impending UFA RoR returned Zadorov, Compher, Grigorenko and #31 for RoR and McGinn.
An extended RoR is easily worth the Blues trade package. People think 27 year old franchise centers are easily acquired and/or grow on trees.
MattMartin
Killer Instinct™
If the Islanders don't want to pay 11th or 12th where else you getting a 1st rounder for Grubauer might I ask? You are not getting 1 (Buffalo) 2 (Carolina) or 6 (Detroit). After that maybe Detroit at 30th which is a huge drop off from 11/12.
LeapOnOver
Mackenzie is a hack!
Some of these trades look brutal and if I'm the Isles I can definitely beat that package for Hoffman. Don't know why anyone thinks that Winnipeg or Nashville's 1st round picks are valued at high first round picks. Sure it's a deep draft, but they aren't worth that much.
The Paccioretty trade is garbage too for MTL.
The Paccioretty trade is garbage too for MTL.
krt88nc
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I agree that Vegas has to be careful to not give away their advantage. They still need to build up greater organizational depth and use the salary cap properly. Not sure they want to give up that much in year two.
The Sabres are clearly getting too much back in this deal with St. Louis. The first round pick is way over payment, without the Blues getting something back. Thomas seems to have a bright future and Dunn worked his way into their lineup using his speed and skating.
Carolina should get way more than what they are here. Skinner has been healthy that past several years but having one year left on the contract is harming his overall value.
I;m not sure Washington is getting enough for Grubauer who appears to be in demand. I'd think the caps wants a couple of good young prospects back and a draft pick. Just getting a first doesn't seem like the right move.
Namikaze Minato
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tanev has never, ever had the value of a top 10 pick, let alone a freshly picked top 5 pick like Marner who has been stunning at every level.
Some canucks fans can be so obscenely delusional when it comes to Tanev and his value.
Leafs will not trade a top prospect (Especially not LilGrin, don't be ridiculous.) and in fact I doubt you find any team that would move a blue chip/ top prospect at any position for him.
I think you'll be lucky to get a conditional first, + a second and a reasonable prospect.
And it's Jim Benning, so you're guaranteed to give your own second rounder back just because that's what he enjoys doing.
But just to reiterate, tanev has never and will never have value anywhere equal to a prospect like Marner. EVER. Period.
Would you have moved Pettersson, prior to his crazy season for him? How about after?
Didnt think so.
Namikaze Minato
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no shit that would be great, you would be destroying the other team in those trades.
BA Carroll
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I guarantee you that the Blues wouldn't deal Thomas straight up for O'Reilly, much less add a young top four defender they are high on, AND a first.
If the Blues deal for RoR, salary is going back. You're looking at one of Berglund or Sobotka; plus one of Walman, Kostin or ThomPson; and a first.
If that's not enough to seal the deal, so be it.
Dan Kelly
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not an overpayment, if i'm trading a high quality forward like Hoffman and starting a youth movement, then i'm getting quality and most importantly youth back. Bennett and Andersson at least are coming back, perhaps a 3rd instead of a 2nd.
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
Habs are not adding our low 3rd round pick (66). That is a very fair deal for the Panthers. If you want a pre-negotiated hand shake contract extension, The Panthers are the ones adding a 3rd. It would be very similar to the Lucic return from the Bruins to Kings and Patch>Lucic.
